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Old 08-02-10 | 06:41 PM
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I'm not sure what you're saying, UMD. You admitted you screwed up. The injured guy 200 mi north of you was way faster than you. You didn't grow up in Coastal Cali. When you were 10, what kind of bike were you riding, and where? Just tell us the facts.
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Originally Posted by Eclectus
I'm not sure what you're saying, UMD. You admitted you screwed up. The injured guy 200 mi north of you was way faster than you. You didn't grow up in Coastal Cali. When you were 10, what kind of bike were you riding, and where? Just tell us the facts.
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Old 08-02-10 | 06:46 PM
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I've never seen a post by him that was anything other than a string of non-sequiturs. I'm convinced now that it's part of a Turing test.
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Originally Posted by Eclectus
I'm not sure what you're saying, UMD. You admitted you screwed up. The injured guy 200 mi north of you was way faster than you. You didn't grow up in Coastal Cali. When you were 10, what kind of bike were you riding, and where? Just tell us the facts.
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Old 08-02-10 | 06:49 PM
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This is the moment of the thread much like in The Sixth Sense or Angel Heart when you say to yourself, WTF?
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Old 08-02-10 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
I've never seen a post by him that was anything other than a string of non-sequiturs. I'm convinced now that it's part of a Turing test.
He fails the Turing test.
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
I've never seen a post by him that was anything other than a string of non-sequiturs. I'm convinced now that it's part of a Turing test.
is he the computer or are we?
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:11 PM
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is he the computer or are we?
That would be he.
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wow this crash has reached epic status; it was on twitter and two threads on BF.
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Originally Posted by Eclectus
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you screwed up. Injuries happen in group sports, and even in individual x-sports. That is what figuring "What did I do wrong?" is about. You'll recover and be fine. You might lose some speed, or maybe you can recover fully. Lance crashed in this TdF. In past years, maybe his reflexes were faster, maybe he spotted trouble a tad earlier and veered around.
Botto's comment about always wearing a base layer, what does that have to do with an ankle injury?
You play intensive sports, you get hurt. It's unavoidable. My best high school friend was hit by a car or some vehicle in Monterey Co. , two weeks in ICU at Stanford. Sh*t happens.
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I'm not sure what you're saying, UMD. You admitted you screwed up. The injured guy 200 mi north of you was way faster than you. You didn't grow up in Coastal Cali. When you were 10, what kind of bike were you riding, and where? Just tell us the facts.
So where do you stand on the base layer? Yea or nay?
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wow this crash has reached epic status; it was on twitter and two threads on BF.
it's also all over facebook. There was talk of it being picked up on Sportscenter (I'm half serious).
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
it's also all over facebook. There was talk of it being picked up on Sportscenter (I'm half serious).
is that Saunders character blaming umd on there too?
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:38 PM
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is that Saunders character blaming umd on there too?
I see his point. 40 seconds into the video, what do you see? I see it and I don't have nearly the view a rider in the group has.
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:41 PM
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Baselayer? naw... Just get a jersey with rip-stop threads of aramid - win!

There was another study a few weeks back stating that cotton and synthetics keep the skin at the same temperature(they were even testing cyclists)... so there, it is mostly a comfort issue.
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:43 PM
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I see his point. 40 seconds into the video, what do you see? I see it and I don't have nearly the view a rider in the group has.
It's easy to look in hindsight knowing he is there and what happens. When it is unfolding, you can't tell that the rider way up the road is going to slow down significantly.
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Originally Posted by umd
It's easy to look in hindsight knowing he is there and what happens. When it is unfolding, you can't tell that the rider way up the road is going to slow down significantly.
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With the number of riders that were present in that group and the overall speed, it would be next to impossible to spot one guy slowing down and then have enough time to check and react.

As somebody said on the youtube vid, "even pros crash".
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With the number of riders that were present in that group and the overall speed, it would be next to impossible to spot one guy slowing down and then have enough time to check and react.

As somebody said on the youtube vid, "even pros crash".
there is one on the right too, the group catches him right before the guy in the center. I'd taken that as a sign.
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Originally Posted by midgetmaestro
As somebody said on the youtube vid, "even pros crash".
One of the local ex-pros emailed me today to say that the same exact thing happened to him a few years ago.
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:53 PM
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it's also all over facebook. There was talk of it being picked up on sportscenter (i'm half serious).
yes i'm going to be on sports center!
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:54 PM
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That was a pretty gnarly crash, glad you're more or less okay.
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:58 PM
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Well, to paraphrase Gladiator, "what we do on rides... echoes in the eternity of BF..."

...especially when there's video.

What amazes me is how it can all go south in a fraction of a second. Fortunately, most of us aren't even fast enough to be on this ride, so all we have to worry about are right-hooks, dingy moms with strollers, and other MUPsters.

Heal up quickly, Steve!
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Old 08-02-10 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz
there is one on the right too, the group catches him right before the guy in the center. I'd taken that as a sign.
I just rewatched the video several times and you don't know what you are talking about. There is nobody on the right side getting caught. All the riders on the right of me were accounted for. The rider [Ron] that went with the guy I hit [Jeff] was still way up the road, which you can clearly see at 0:45 right as I am about to go down. I'm fairly certain that Ron stayed away to the end.
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Old 08-02-10 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DScott
Fortunately, most of us aren't even fast enough to be on this ride, so all we have to worry about are right-hooks, dingy moms with strollers, and other MUPsters.
This sums it up for me.

umd, thanks for posting and hope your ankle recovers quickly.
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Old 08-02-10 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
I just rewatched the video several times and you don't know what you are talking about. There is nobody on the right side getting caught
I had to watch it a second time and yup, he was still up the road. Either way you can see the rider being reeled in.
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