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freeskihp 10-19-10 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 11644332)
Pinarello's high end frames (my def: best) are NOT made in Asia.

hate to perpetuate, but this is wrong. dogma/prince/etc. are made in asia and sent to Treviso for paint/finish

molecularman 10-19-10 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 11644332)
Trek and Pinarello's best frames are made in America and Italy.
That's what I'd consider their "high end" frames.

I have no doubt that Asia makes good high end frames.
But besides the others mentioned, Trek, Colango, Time and
Pinarello's high end frames (my def: best) are NOT made in Asia.

"Made in" doesn't necessarily mean the entire bike was constructed in that country. If the majority of the value of the bike was added in a particular nation, the bike is claimed to be made in said nation i.e. the frame was constructed in Taiwan but painted, and assembled in France, and if the majority of the bike's worth was added in France, the bike is said to be made in France. The majority of frames are constructed in Asia nowadays. There are articles all over the place regarding this.

SkyeC 10-19-10 04:00 PM

alright guys... back to CAADs, enough nonsense about COO.

2ndGen 10-19-10 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by molecularman (Post 11646491)
"Made in" doesn't necessarily mean the entire bike was constructed in that country. If the majority of the value of the bike was added in a particular nation, the bike is claimed to be made in said nation i.e. the frame was constructed in Taiwan but painted, and assembled in France, and if the majority of the bike's worth was added in France, the bike is said to be made in France. The majority of frames are constructed in Asia nowadays. There are articles all over the place regarding this.

I was talking about just frames, not entire bikes.

:)

2ndGen 10-19-10 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by freeskihp (Post 11645803)
hate to perpetuate, but this is wrong. dogma/prince/etc. are made in asia and sent to Treviso for paint/finish

Wouldn't surprise me.
Last I read, Dogmas were being manufactured in Italy.
(Maybe that's why their breaking so much lately.)

2ndGen 10-19-10 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by SkyeC (Post 11647110)
alright guys... back to CAADs, enough nonsense about COO.


:lol:

Agreed SkyeC.

CAAD10 welds vs CAAD9:

http://www.roadcyclinguk.com/uploads...dium/10069.jpg http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1287534097

What do you guys think?

America did it better?

Beaker 10-19-10 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by aoto (Post 11644703)
The Pedaler ^_^ Definitely one of the most camouflaged bike shops I have ever seen. When I first went in there I would have never guessed they had so many nice bikes in there.

Nice catch, I love the Ped :thumb:.

They were literally my local bike store for a while (by proximity) but I still go back there for all bricks/mortar purchases, despite it being a 20-25min drive from home and longer from work. I love that they are low key and super low pressure - I've lost count of the number of times I've been in there and they've given me free advice (sometimes free stuff) and talked me out of stuff I don't need. The CAAD10 was the second bike I'd bought from them and I'd love to buy another. The stealth look and constant presence of at least two lazy labs/retrievers just adds to the ambience.

2ndGen 10-19-10 06:27 PM

Let's see if they show up better in white:

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1287534367

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1287534519

Beaker 10-19-10 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 11647555)
CAAD10 welds vs CAAD9:

What do you guys think?

America did it better?

Troll much?

seejohnbike 10-19-10 11:03 PM

still waiting on my LBS to get their CAAD10s in stock. They have a full size run on order, but other than that, have no real idea when they will get them in stock. It would be possible for me to special order one, and possibly get it faster, but I'm hoping to test ride both a 58 and a 60 to see which one fits better...

and so I wait...

taimur 10-19-10 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 11501955)
Aren't the CAAD10's selling supposedly for about the same as curren't CAAD9's?

Weren't they actually supposed to go DOWN in price when the Canadian company
that bought them began manufacturing them overseas with far cheaper labor?

Whatever they saved now probably goes in to shipping HAHAHAHAHAHA

littlewing6283 10-19-10 11:10 PM

My friend brought his scale over My CAAD9 came in at 16.9 lbs w/ pedals and cages on. WOOT

Ultegra 6700 Parts.

taimur 10-19-10 11:36 PM


Originally Posted by roadwarrior (Post 11510828)
Exactly. BTW...that CAAD3 frame was the one where Cippolini looked into the camea afer breaking the Giro stage win record and said, "Cannondale makes the best bikes."


I have the 1996 CAAD3 M500 (pic in sig below) its a mountain bike racer as i like to call it. People still walk over to the bike and admire it on our group rides. Its a solid Hard Tail that rides like a road racer on roads.

Its fast! and reliable and refuses to break!

Velo_Tut 10-20-10 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by sean koby (Post 11643693)
CityCycle here in Jax,Fl had CAAD9 frames for $500 while they last.......

Heck yea they do! That's where I bought mine! Drew is good people. Built up a 56 for me when he didn't have one ready to roll out the door.

2ndGen 10-20-10 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Razor From KC (Post 11649083)
I like the ten better. i hated how they had it on the 9

I'm lovin' the shape, but the welds aren't as clean as the American made frames.

CAAD10 owners, do you notice the same with your frames in comparison to the C9's?
Or could this just be a few bad apples that are photographed?

:)

alexgate 10-20-10 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by 2ndGen (Post 11653231)
I'm lovin' the shape, but the welds aren't as clean as the American made frames.

CAAD10 owners, do you notice the same with your frames in comparison to the C9's?
Or could this just be a few bad apples that are photographed?

:)

Clean welds do not equal good welds

2ndGen 10-20-10 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by alexgate (Post 11653405)
Clean welds do not equal good welds

Okay, but I'm not questioning whether their good or not.
What I'm questioning is the craftsmanship of the builders.

2ndGen 10-20-10 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by taimur (Post 11649371)
Whatever they saved now probably goes in to shipping HAHAHAHAHAHA

Well, prices went up for CAADs instead of going down while their labor costs plummeted.

Know what that means?

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/b/0/0...=1244065658000

rangerdavid 10-20-10 07:03 PM

shipping costs probably went through the roof.

exchelente 10-20-10 08:28 PM

Just joined - my first post!
 
The wife and I picked up a pair of 2010 CAAD9's. I got the 9-5 with the 105 setup. Only have about 60 miles on it, but so far I'm impressed with how fast it is! Now I just need to find a more comfortable saddle.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/...a535ba4397.jpg

exchelente 10-20-10 08:36 PM

Twin speeders
 
Second photo
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1413/...9388f920_z.jpg

Cardz 10-20-10 08:58 PM

New to the forum but I've been riding for almost one and a half years

here's my first road bike, an 09 Caad9.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-...2_714972_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._1830628_n.jpg

Velo_Tut 10-21-10 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by exchelente (Post 11654484)

Some people say it's a fad, but it does look better when you flip the stem. Plenty of threads on here about the pros n' cons.

hkboy313 10-21-10 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by littlewing6283 (Post 11649375)
My friend brought his scale over My CAAD9 came in at 16.9 lbs w/ pedals and cages on. WOOT

Ultegra 6700 Parts.

what saddle/ seat post / (are they uncut?) and handlebars do you have? are your wheels ultegra too?


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