Soloist Assassin

Fixed.

Ohmannuel

lol 2500 frame and fork alone! I'll end up with a 2lbs bike!
As in I'll I'll have is a frame and fork!

Soloist Assassin

That was a nice BMC, you better be getting more than $2500. Go to the hospital and get your back checked out. It will be a good bargaining chip for the insurance deal.

Soloist Assassin

I got a new to me set of wheels yesterday. Some EC90TT's from 2009. The front is cracked, and I am going to get it crash replaced through Easton for $350, and I only paid $300 for the pair. The problem... I need another set of Skewers. Should I go KCNC again or try something else?

DropDeadFred

are the kcnc lighter than the zipp skewers on the new firecrest?

Soloist Assassin

Yep, about 21g lighter at 44g/pr. I am seriously considering the Tune Skewers, but $120 sounds a bit steep. If I did that however I could put those on the 404s, and put the KCNC on the Eastons. They are only 33g.

Ohmannuel

120 is a lot for skewers, but being that you saved so much on the wheelset and you can do the parts shuffle if you get them, I say do it.

Soloist Assassin

After further inspection. I will pass on the Tune skewers. The way they are so light is the front axle is aluminum instead of ti, like the rear. KCNC is ti front, and rear. I don't see the sense in paying more for a substandard material just because it is lighter. I don't really trust an aluminum skewer to last long either. So I am back to buying another set of KCNC unless something else lands on my radar.

Rode the Trek today in it's 15.8lbs build. Felt really good on it today. Can't wait to get these EC90s ready for the Trekster to race on them. I think I may glue 25mm wide tires to them to help with grip in the corners since the main role will be crit race wheels. The ride today further reinforced my thoughts on the Tune skewers. I have heavy Spinergy Skewers on my Spinergy clinchers, and my bike was creaking on hard efforts today. I stopped at a gas station, and tightened the hell out of my front skewer, and now it is silent. If it was aluminum it may of stripped or snapped.

runningDoc

I just saw these light weight skewers on eBay (43g +/- 3g)...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/110680886046...9#ht_922wt_907



it seems like such a genius idea... adding hex wrench keys to the end of the skewer! and one each: an M4 and M5.

echotraveler

it seems very nice! but id be hesitant to stress the central rod... if they add a torquing helper this would be awesome!

Soloist Assassin

I saw those on my search. The rod stress is one thing. The fact that it is aluminum on the lever is another. I bet it would not take much torque to round those out.

plpete

I'm using the BHS Ti skewers. They came in right at advertised weight of 44 grams and cost less than $40 shipped. I have the black ones.

lechat

Now I'm in a Quandry. Had planned on flipping the SI SL arms, just got my S Works crank installed, but now I have them I don't want to let them go. Weight would be about the same.

NathanC

I have these Token skewers on my bike for about 2 years now, flawless.
Weight advertised as 36 grams for the set. I think they were 38 grams when I weighed them.
https://www.tokenproducts.com/index.p...&id=163&page=4

runningDoc

its not like you're going to use them as your main 4m and 5m hex keys... its a MacGyver type of thing... just in case.


if you can make a great profit then sell them. crank arms are the new trend to save weight easily - especially with the new SRAM Red cranks out and paving the way for the other guys to start putting out lower priced alternatives.

those type of uber light and uber expensive crank arms (a-la clavicle/ax lightness) are going to be phased out with the influx from the big three (think trickle down to the next Force Groups) and china carbon offerings in the next year.

runningDoc

^nice thanks for the info about token skewers... that brand looks to be a leader with price/options/weightweeine ratios.

as for MacGyver solutions these offerings from Token look to be very very interesting:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-TOKEN-TK...#ht_2303wt_905



$64 bucks.... 24 grams! and you can theoretically use the detachable levers as tire levers to keep in your jersey pocket.

aramis

Here's my Fuji SL-1 I built a little while ago. Just added a Woodman seatpost I bought off the forum (thanks!) to get it down to around 15 1/2 #'s with pedals/computer and dura ace 7800 group. Still need to swap the stem with a new one I bought.

I just bought a set of those token skewers (the 46 gram ones) off ebay too.

Ohmannuel

Very nice, 15 and change is very respectable, I know SA has his beach cruiser down to like 13#

Soloist Assassin

Both of my main road bikes got lighter today.

runningDoc

^ nice seat post!

skewers are a place where you can save a lot of weight for cheap. Especially with the ones that come stock (which weigh 100g or more).

if you have a carbon fork with a carbon steerer then most likely you have a expander plug of some sort. another way to save weight for cheap is to buy a lightweight expander plug solution and light top cap:

https://fairwheelbikes.com/tune-gum-g...lug-p-310.html

https://fairwheelbikes.com/extralite-...nder-p-29.html (i've heard nothing but excellent reviews with the ultrastar 2 expanders).

I've personally used the tune gum gum expander:







^i added some presta valve rings to facilitate spacing (which was only a gram).

compared to normal expander/steel bolt/top caps you can save an easy 30+grams (sometimes even more with bulky expanders that are over 50g) for under $30. Plus you get to have a cool stem top cap.

With the gumgum expander its recommended you use your normal expander plug to set the pre-load tension (then clamp down with the stem) and install it. it depends on the inside diameter of your carbon steerer, but in my case the gumgum was really really tight when compressed (because the expanded silicon grips the carbon so well) to the point that I could actually use it to set the pre-load in lieu of the older expander plug.

I understand that the ultrastar 2 expanders are robust enough to be able to set the bearing preload tension on their own.

runningDoc

Another way to save a lot of weight from stock bikes it in the seatpost.

If your bike/position/fit can handle a 0º setback seatpost then you're golden (with numerous offerings from KCNC/Woodman). I think there was members in this thread that cut down a 27.2 KCNC post to 250mm and it was in the 100g range!

I little tougher is the 31.6 diameter seatposts. They'll be a little heavier. I've saw on flickr how a guy tuned his USE Alien Seatpost shim (made of compliant polymer/plastics that work well with carbon) and copied him (basically drilling holes into it):



it seems like a great way to utilize the smaller diameter posts you already have (27.2) which are probably lighter anyway.

Its a lot tougher finding weight weenie seatposts with setback though... You pretty much have to accept a weight penalty compared to 0º setback options.

There are weight weenie setback posts out there, but they are more expensive and can go to obscenely expensive.

Great value: https://fairwheelbikes.com/kcnc-sc-pr...st-p-1226.html and https://williamscycling.com/ionic_ccs.html

expensive: https://fairwheelbikes.com/new-ultima...st-p-1419.html

very very expensive: https://fairwheelbikes.com/enve-25mm-...st-p-3622.html

expensive: https://fairwheelbikes.com/ax-lightne...00-p-2169.html

my personal favorite in value/quality lightweight seatpost with setback are the Thompson Masterpiece ones. You can find them for cheaper on eBay/Craigslist/Google-fu-ing. They look kind of funky/ugly but the design allows them to be light weight:

ravenmore

The KCNC posts are ridiculously light when you cut them down. and they are very stiff. Mine weighed 104 grams after I cut it down. When I was using that carbon seat the combo was 204 grams.

runningDoc

^yup you posed pics of it right? I was trying to find the cut down KCNC post in this thread and gave up looking.

Soloist Assassin

I wonder what my KCNC post weighs? I suppose I'll have to weigh it. I concur with them being great posts. I've had mine for 3 years now. No issues at all. I'm hoping the weather clears up today for a proper photo shoot, and a subsequent bike ride outside. I am finally happy with both bikes. Until proper pics, I leave you with this:

ravenmore

yeah - it would be tough to find it at this point. I might flip through my photobucket and see if I can find it. What I love about it is that in addition to being light it is a VERY solid post.