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TT's are big fun. When I first rode a TT bike, my first reaction was 'how the hell does anyone ride these bikes?'. So naturally, I bought one (on eBay, a year old 2007 Six13 Slice TT bike). I effed around with my position on that bike for a couple years, finally realized that the conventional TT bike wisdom (one size smaller than your regular road bike size) wasn't working in this case. I checked the geometry of the P3, decided a 56cm P3 might work better, then bought one of those bikes used off eBay for $2600. Mint condition. That's about $2K less than a brand new P3. The new bike fits me so much better. I'm actually comfortable in the aero bars. And I really do enjoy riding and racing the TT bike now. First off, you can't get dropped. There's humiliation when you're slow of course, but that's bike racing.
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Well, I could recap this morning's ride conversations. Ahem... One of the guy's family is in the bee business, and he just finished writing a report on the widespread issue of bee colony death. Unlike my former hippie neighbor who believed it was all about cellular phones, the actual reason for so many bee colony die-outs is big agriculture practices, where large mono-crops create the perfect breeding ground for viruses for which the trucked in, genetically bred super bees have no immunity. Local hive colonies are the solution, as well as alternating the crops grown across a large area. Hard to do with tree borne fruit, but not impossible with some planning.
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Doesn't bother me. I get passed, but I also catch and pass people (I'm never the slowest guy there).
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I don't like swimming that much (even though I'm a good swimmer) and I can't run (bad right knee).
Your theory is fatally flawed, much like your taste in motorcycles.
Your theory is fatally flawed, much like your taste in motorcycles.
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TT's are big fun. When I first rode a TT bike, my first reaction was 'how the hell does anyone ride these bikes?'. So naturally, I bought one (on eBay, a year old 2007 Six13 Slice TT bike). I effed around with my position on that bike for a couple years, finally realized that the conventional TT bike wisdom (one size smaller than your regular road bike size) wasn't working in this case. I checked the geometry of the P3, decided a 56cm P3 might work better, then bought one of those bikes used off eBay for $2600. Mint condition. That's about $2K less than a brand new P3. The new bike fits me so much better. I'm actually comfortable in the aero bars. And I really do enjoy riding and racing the TT bike now. First off, you can't get dropped. There's humiliation when you're slow of course, but that's bike racing.
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I did my first TT the week before I crashed, and broke my collar bone. It was great fun. I only got to catch one guy, but I never got passed. I ended up having the second fasted time of the day by one second. First however was my Cat 2 friend, and he had me by two, and a half minutes. I really liked it. There were people on full out TT bikes, but I just rode my lowly Sram equipped Cervelo road bike. My Cat 2 friend was on his Sram Equipped Felt road bike. It was fun I could get into it. It would open a whole new door of schwag to buy. 

The owner had upgraded the cockpit to Profile carbon bars (really nice) and the cool Zipp extensions. Massive improvement than the crap I had on that Cannondale. Just a great TT set up all the way around. Good enough for Uncle Pcad, that's for sure.


Only 18.25 lbs with Zipp clinchers and the Power Tap. And with Zipp tubies/sans Power Tap it's only 16.5 lbs or so. Pretty light for a TT bike.
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I have since replaced that saddle with my old Specialized Alias 143. HUGE difference for me in comfort, that Fizik saddle was like a brick up my ass.
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I have ridden both the Fizik Aliente and Arione and they both gave me that feeling. Never again.
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The Orange County Bicycle Club is a Massive Fred Fest.
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I really want a P3 the same year as that. The color scheme was awesome that year. One of these days I'll build one, get it down to like 15lbs or so, with Red.
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You can buy them on eBay all day long for about half the price of a new one. Tri geeks tend to buy the bikes and hardly ride them. Even with all the miles I ride, I don't ride the TT bike more than 1000-1500 miles/year.
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#117
I like riding alone, I like seeing how fast I can go, it's really just Pcad vs. Pcad. I like the TT bike speciality, learning how to ride it, etc. I like the vibe @ TT's more of a triathlon or MTB race feel, minimal Road Nazi crap, everybody is very friendly. And if you are into Bike Schwag, these TT's are like some kind of Top Secret Bike Weenie Skunkworks Convention, there's more expensive bike crap than you ever saw, disc wheels, SRM's, the latest trick TT rigs, etc. My TT bike is tame in comparison. But it does work, and the P3 does totally rock. I am continually amazed at how much better this Cervelo is than the Cannondale it replaced. Amazing.
The owner had upgraded the cockpit to Profile carbon bars (really nice) and the cool Zipp extensions. Massive improvement than the crap I had on that Cannondale. Just a great TT set up all the way around. Good enough for Uncle Pcad, that's for sure.


Only 18.25 lbs with Zipp clinchers and the Power Tap. And with Zipp tubies/sans Power Tap it's only 16.5 lbs or so. Pretty light for a TT bike.
The owner had upgraded the cockpit to Profile carbon bars (really nice) and the cool Zipp extensions. Massive improvement than the crap I had on that Cannondale. Just a great TT set up all the way around. Good enough for Uncle Pcad, that's for sure.


Only 18.25 lbs with Zipp clinchers and the Power Tap. And with Zipp tubies/sans Power Tap it's only 16.5 lbs or so. Pretty light for a TT bike.

You would be faster if you had Campagnolo Super Record on that
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PCAD, were you in NYC last night? You should of been?

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Rt. 29 TT today, first official race on the Cervelo P3 bike. I have no idea how I placed, but my 23.7 mph average speed (per the race organizer's computer) is my own personal fastest individual TT avg. speed ever. I registered as a Cat 4, and there were only 4 guys in my division (low turnout, today was the NJ State RR), so it's 50-50 whether I made a podium spot or finished DFL. Long TT (35 km), I'm used to shorter TTs than that. That last ten minutes has you looking up the long straight road for the finish line like Lawrence of Arabia looking for a desert oasis.
A TT pr is progress considering the fact I was in the hospital in early June. I'll take it.
A TT pr is progress considering the fact I was in the hospital in early June. I'll take it.
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To be even remotely competitive in the 55+ (I'll be in that age group in 2012) I'd need another 1 mph in average speed. But I think that's do-able, my avg. wattage outbound was only about 240 watts, 220 watts on the return leg, I can get stronger than that. I've averaged 290 watts for a 20 minute effort in a past race.
It's fun trying.
It's fun trying.
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Nobody cares but me.
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I figured that while I'm on blood thinning meds I would do TT's, I'll never crash doing those. Today on the return leg I'm hammering along @ 24+ mph in a shady spot on the road shoulder and I suddenly realize I'm in gravel, on aero bars, on a TT bike. Happily I kept the shiny side up. Don't ask me how.
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I am impressed 23.7mph average seems fairly fast, was it a fairly flat course? I've never ridden a TT bike either, I imagine they are good for at least a mph or so.






