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Originally Posted by telenick
I can't rationalize the extra expense of tubulars for training and club rides.
I say tires are cheap insurance.
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If you really cared about speed, you would be riding one of these 53/11
https://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
Yeah, you think your bike is so fast? Race one of these. yeah this bike has tubulars too.
Oh and this bike you can run a 60/11 on it and still run out of gears on the flats.
https://www.wisil.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nocom.htm
Yeah, you think your bike is so fast? Race one of these. yeah this bike has tubulars too.
Oh and this bike you can run a 60/11 on it and still run out of gears on the flats.
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bottom line: clinchers for training and club rides ...tubulars for race day.
I can't rationalize the extra expense of tubulars for training and club rides. Just like I can't rationalize using spendy tires on my rollers.
I can't rationalize the extra expense of tubulars for training and club rides. Just like I can't rationalize using spendy tires on my rollers.
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Originally Posted by pinky
53-11 when you say 'blow out' what do you mean? I've front flatted on a 50mph downhill and didnt crash or damage my rim.
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Originally Posted by Surferbruce
53- check out cyclingnews for a report on the new tubs from dedaelementi. 230g for a 22mm tire with like 300tpi. hmmm
They also make 120 gram 21mm at 220 psi.
Those weights are for rims (lighter to begin with....cronos are 340 grams and strong) that don't need inner tubes and tire liners....only tape.
So as you can see tubulars are much lighter at the rim than clinchers......and probably safer with the extreme tape than clinchers.
Personally I don't need 120 gram tires....the 240 gram Elites are the equivalent on my elite "tubular clincher version" that I loved.
#61
Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
You had a slow flat.......air came out slowly. A blow-out sounds like a gunshot and you are completely flat in less than a split second. The tire then starts to come off the rim in about 2 seconds. So you've maybe got a couple of seconds to hit the brakes and unclip so you can throw your feet out to stabilize. Once I was unclipped from my pedals I had to do a "fred flinstone" to keep my bike from hitting the ground. Luckily I wasn't going too fast.......or else my bike and me would have been toast.
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Originally Posted by pinky
No sh*t, I really had a slow flat?? Because I had that bang noise, followed by the thud of the front rim hitting asphalt with the tire still underneath it. Ride more, talk less.
50 mph?!?!?!
You sure it was 50 mph?
If it was 50 mph I'm glad your tire didn't come off.....because I am wondering how these tires are staying on.
#63
Go to www.competitivecyclist.com and check out the lightweight wheelsets. Lightweight is the name of the company. the prices are terrifying but the technology sounds great.
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I had a front blowout (upholstry staple) at 30 mph while going up a 7% grade into the wind on krsryim elites and I just kind of pulled over to the side and stopped. (okay, so it was a slight downhill with a tailwind, but whos keeping track.
). The tire was shredded between the rim and the road and I used my cell-phone to get a ride home. It wasn't that hard to control but it was a little wobbly. I can't say I would be as lucky going 20 mph faster though, since the 30 mph was scary enough.
I run clinchers because they are relatively inexpensive and my bike came with a clincher wheelset. If I get dedicated race wheels, they will be tubulars.
). The tire was shredded between the rim and the road and I used my cell-phone to get a ride home. It wasn't that hard to control but it was a little wobbly. I can't say I would be as lucky going 20 mph faster though, since the 30 mph was scary enough.I run clinchers because they are relatively inexpensive and my bike came with a clincher wheelset. If I get dedicated race wheels, they will be tubulars.
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Originally Posted by DogBoy
I had a front blowout (upholstry staple) at 30 mph while going up a 7% grade into the wind on krsryim elites and I just kind of pulled over to the side and stopped. (okay, so it was a slight downhill with a tailwind, but whos keeping track.
). The tire was shredded between the rim and the road and I used my cell-phone to get a ride home. It wasn't that hard to control but it was a little wobbly. I can't say I would be as lucky going 20 mph faster though, since the 30 mph was scary enough.
I run clinchers because they are relatively inexpensive and my bike came with a clincher wheelset. If I get dedicated race wheels, they will be tubulars.
). The tire was shredded between the rim and the road and I used my cell-phone to get a ride home. It wasn't that hard to control but it was a little wobbly. I can't say I would be as lucky going 20 mph faster though, since the 30 mph was scary enough.I run clinchers because they are relatively inexpensive and my bike came with a clincher wheelset. If I get dedicated race wheels, they will be tubulars.
Both times my tire stayed on the tim, but the problem was that when the tire started wobbling the exposed rim started scraping.....
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
So the tire stayed on the rim.....you didn't scrape metal, huh?
Both times my tire stayed on the tim, but the problem was that when the tire started wobbling the exposed rim started scraping.....
Both times my tire stayed on the tim, but the problem was that when the tire started wobbling the exposed rim started scraping.....
so what is it?
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Originally Posted by baxtefer
so now you're saying your tires blew out and stayed on the rim, wheras in this thread you're complaining about your tires rolling off the rim.
so what is it?
so what is it?
the real issue with me is not having to ride on the aluminum rails of the rim when my tire blows.
I shredded one rim to the point it had to be replaced.....the second time I just pitted the rim (I was going slow).
I could control it fairly well, but when the rim started scraping it got really hairy (luckily I was slowed down enough at that point)
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Originally Posted by 53-11 alltheway
Till you get a tire blow-out and the tire comes the rim......if you are unlucky you have at least a damaged rim .....hope you didn't buy kysruims ( then maybe trashed shifters plus road rash on your frame). Even more unlucky still and you will be in the hospital....with some major bills.
I say tires are cheap insurance.
I say tires are cheap insurance.
Last edited by telenick; 01-06-05 at 08:48 AM.





