noise boy

Exactly

patentcad

When you're 55+ (my racing age is 55) you're on so many medications the doping tests would never see the EPO underneath anyway.

banerjek

It's not like there aren't plenty of people in the regular population taking all kinds of crap for medical/recreational/whatever reasons. Who cares if people dope for these events?

gregf83 

They're competing for $100k in prizes. I suspect the guys who don't win care if the guys who win are cheating. But that's just me. In fact any one who competes cares if their competitors are cheating.

banerjek

It does degrade the experience, but the top prize is a bike which is unimpressive considering the number of people. It's unclear to me where prizes end and the raffle begins but the stuff isn't exactly mind boggling. If people are serious about competition and winnings, this doesn't quite strike me the right place to be.

gsteinb

Of course, all kidding aside, guys do that and get immediate two year bans. In all cases it's looked upon as an admission of guilt.

gsteinb

To clarify it's not his team's homepage, but a NY cycling blog that happens to be run by someone who runs his team.

Bacciagalupe

It's still a competitive event. David Anthony apparently won his age group (45-49), not sure about the other guy.

Anthony obviously wasn't doping for financial gain or to advance a racing career; he almost certainly spent more obtaining the EPO than he won in prizes, and is not about to join a pro team.

If it was a non-competitive ride, and he was under medical supervision, he could take whatever he likes. Since it's a competition, PED's are out.

tsak

@gsteinb: Thanks for pointing that out. I've changed the original post to reflect your comment.

gsteinb

no he couldn't. he's licensed by USAC and is subject to testing by the USADA.

banerjek

Exactly. Freds who ride solo can take all the dope that they want. But few if any see any point in doing so.

patentcad

The vast majority of amateur competitors who ride clean, like my pal gsteinb, who trains harder than you can ever possibly even friggin imagine to succeed in amateur racing. That's who cares. That's a pretty stupid question, but you are nothing if not consistent.

Eff the dopers, particularly on the amateur level. They piss me off, they should piss all of us off.

tsak

According to the cached results the guys that doped ranked 4th and 5th overall.

DaveWC

Anthony won his age group.

TMonk

haha true.

my bad i was hungry

jesspal

Are they banned from future charity events, make an example out of them?

banerjek

I get that, but GFNY is not your typical race. In any case, people figure out what's going on and anyone who cheats is a loser no matter what the official results say.

The whole reason categories, age groups, and all the other things we use to divide people exist is so that there is some competition since all of these people would otherwise be thrashed when thrown together with people they can't compete with. Intentionally doing things to alter the outcome undermines the entire reason these divisions exist and it's pathetic. May as well compete in the womens' categories since they're probably not DNA testing yet.

Andy_K 

He won a gold bottle opener



and a jersey. So it was obviously worth the risk.

AdelaaR

That doesn't look like a handy bottle opener at all.

patentcad

Doesn't matter. It's competitive, that's why they have doping controls. They don't have that at a century ride which is not formally competitive.

Homebrew01

Anthony was doping for all his races, not just GFNY. He just happened to get caught there because USAC doesn't test much.

Right Said Fred

Never underestimate the ego manifestations of a Type A personality upper middle class white male. I'm going to demand drug testing after some of my local group rides.

gsteinb

yes, because black football players would never take steroids or anything. wtf

patentcad

Correct.

patentcad

Word up motherfarker.