Catastrophic Front fork failure: Trek 5900
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Wow. That sounds crazy and is pretty much my worse cycling fear (e.g. waking up in a hospital from an accident).
I've heard of carbon forks failing, but never without some kind of impact.
Have you gone back to the place of the accident and see if there were any road imperfections or potholes you could have hit?
I've heard of carbon forks failing, but never without some kind of impact.
Have you gone back to the place of the accident and see if there were any road imperfections or potholes you could have hit?
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but like any material, it fatigues. It's good stuff, but riding a 2003 bike in 2012 might be pushing it a little when it comes to carbon and let me explain why, using the expertise of a person for whom a significant part of their body is made of carbon fiber....
When carbon gets some age in it, it needs to be inspected very carefully to make sure there are no cracks in the resin. The carbon doesn't break the resin does...think bricks. The resin is the clay and the carbon is the horsehair and straw. I inspect my legs with a magnifying glass.
carbon fiber does not fatigue. However, carbon is only part of the equation. The resin that holds that carbon together is the other. That resin is both fragile, and there are a bunch of them of varying qualities on the market.
carbon fiber materials, and the resins used will not fatigue through stress or vibration. But the resin can crack through impacts...sometimes very small impacts. My daughter broke one of my legs simply by knocking it over onto the concrete floor of our garage.
when looking at a 2003 bike, the question you have to ask yourself is "can I account for every time anything has impacted this material". For a bike, that gets tough, and exactly why I don't ride carbon frames. I can baby my carbon legs, but I don't baby my bikes.
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Or a very nice bicycle.
Lots of custom frame builders will make you a steel fork. Some will do ones with Reynolds 953 stainless blades (https://road.cc/content/image/18270-r...53-fork-blades). Ti Cycles in Portland will weld you a titanium one for $1100 (frame not included).
Lots of custom frame builders will make you a steel fork. Some will do ones with Reynolds 953 stainless blades (https://road.cc/content/image/18270-r...53-fork-blades). Ti Cycles in Portland will weld you a titanium one for $1100 (frame not included).
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The magnet on the spoke seems to be facing the broken arm of the fork and not the other arm where the sensor is?
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Warranty is good for the original owner, per Trek's published warranty statement. The lifetime portion does not pertain to forks, which is two years. The bike was already several years old when the OP purchased it, so it may not be covered under Trek's warranty at all. Maybe they will still do something for him, but based on their warranty info below, it does not appear they are obligated to do so.
At any rate, I wish the OP a speedy recovery.
LIFETIME
Frames for the lifetime of the original owner (except forks, the Session, Scratch, Slash, and Ticket model frames, and the swing arms on all full suspension bicycles)
5 years
Swing arms on all full suspension bicycles (except the Session, Scratch, and Slash model frames)
3 years
Session (aluminum), Scratch, Slash and Ticket model frames and swing arms
2 years
Session (carbon) model frames and swing arms
RIDE+ motor, controller, & battery pack (or 600 charges, whichever comes first)
All original Bontrager forks, parts and components (except consumables such as tires and tubes)
At any rate, I wish the OP a speedy recovery.
LIFETIME
Frames for the lifetime of the original owner (except forks, the Session, Scratch, Slash, and Ticket model frames, and the swing arms on all full suspension bicycles)
5 years
Swing arms on all full suspension bicycles (except the Session, Scratch, and Slash model frames)
3 years
Session (aluminum), Scratch, Slash and Ticket model frames and swing arms
2 years
Session (carbon) model frames and swing arms
RIDE+ motor, controller, & battery pack (or 600 charges, whichever comes first)
All original Bontrager forks, parts and components (except consumables such as tires and tubes)
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Not a bad opinion really. Any engineer worth his salt would ensure that the moment capacity of the steerer is significantly greater than the capacity of the two fork legs combined and has a higher factor of safety against failure. Simply becasue the steerer cannot be inspected. Invisible parts are often designed with a higher factor of safety - it is good design practice. In addition the development length of the carbon fiber strnads is such that the failure is in fact likely to occur some distance down the fork leg, rather than in the zone of highest moment since that is where the effect of additional fiber layers used to reinforce the steerer connection diminishes.
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In addition the development length of the carbon fiber strnads is such that the failure is in fact likely to occur some distance down the fork leg, rather than in the zone of highest moment since that is where the effect of additional fiber layers used to reinforce the steerer connection diminishes.
Makes perfect sense