Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 15068403)

I know you are right about all of it. The thing is with her low self-esteem, and depression cause all of this. I really don't feel like it is really her fault. She doesn't have a sense of self worth, and therefor doesn't value the feelings of others. On top of that they are constantly seeking approval, and attention from others. Hence a need, or want for more than one lover. I know she doesn't want to do any of this on purpose, it is just a result of her condition. She told me she loves me more than anyone else next to her father. It just sucks, I fell in love with the wrong girl.
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Originally Posted by RUOkie (Post 15068436)

That is TOTAL BS (and we spoke about that already). Her behavior is completely her fault. And she makes choices. We all do every day. Even people with personality disorders. YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HER HAPPINESS!!!! And SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER BEHAVIOR.

Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 15068411)

Yes you do. I think we've found your problem...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur312...yer_detailpage

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 15068455)

You're right. I guess I need to stop making excuses for her.

Originally Posted by RUOkie (Post 15068436)

YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HER HAPPINESS!!!! And SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER BEHAVIOR.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 15068476)

Typical GOP mentality.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 15068479)

7 years until we can start cha-chinging those SS checks baby.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 15068471)

Correct.

Get back to making excuses for me, nobody's covering me here anymore.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 15068471)

Correct.

Get back to making excuses for me, nobody's covering me here anymore.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 15068468)

By the way Whooosshhh, if you worship that movie as some kind of paradigm of human society, that might explain a few things.

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 15068403)

I know you are right about all of it. The thing is with her low self-esteem, and depression cause all of this. I really don't feel like it is really her fault. She doesn't have a sense of self worth, and therefor doesn't value the feelings of others. On top of that they are constantly seeking approval, and attention from others. Hence a need, or want for more than one lover. I know she doesn't want to do any of this on purpose, it is just a result of her condition. She told me she loves me more than anyone else next to her father. It just sucks, I fell in love with the wrong girl. I was under the assumption he was gone for good at about week 3. Then these last two weeks it all started to fall apart.

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 15068175)

Thanks for being straight with me. I feel like I'll have closure with what I've done, for there is nothing left for me to say. The decision she makes is now on her. The recent discovery which is probably no surprise to any of you. The other guy has been coming around again, and his recent presence in her life no doubt has caused the rift between us. I had my suspicions all along, but it was confirmed today. She says she needs closure between him, and her, but for crying out loud this has been going on for 3mo now. So I had to make this one last stand, and present the ultimatum. I had to make it apparent, that there is no coming back after this. Hell the fact that I am even talking to her still, is a testament of how much I really care. If it was any other girl, I would just cease to talk to her ever again without giving her a choice. She probably doesn't even deserve this last chance. With all these years between us, and everything that has gone on. I just couldn't end it all without a saying what I had to say. It doesn't even hurt anymore. I just feel numb at this point.
I sincerely apologize to all of you growing tired of these updates. I suppose I will make this the last time I speak of any of this. This was a really hard thing for me to go through, but I am glad I did. I also appreciate all the help you all have offered.

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 15068403)

I know you are right about all of it. The thing is with her low self-esteem, and depression cause all of this. I really don't feel like it is really her fault. She doesn't have a sense of self worth, and therefor doesn't value the feelings of others. On top of that they are constantly seeking approval, and attention from others. Hence a need, or want for more than one lover. I know she doesn't want to do any of this on purpose, it is just a result of her condition. She told me she loves me more than anyone else next to her father. It just sucks, I fell in love with the wrong girl.

Originally Posted by RUOkie (Post 15068436)

That is TOTAL BS (and we spoke about that already). Her behavior is completely her fault. And she makes choices. We all do every day. Even people with personality disorders. YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR HER HAPPINESS!!!! And SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HER BEHAVIOR.

Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 15068516)

Shut up and eat your donut, private.

Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH... (Post 15068563)

Keep your mouth shut lardass!

Originally Posted by Soloist Assassin (Post 15068490)

There is no excuse for you old man. Except possibly years of chemtrail exposure.

Is that what you were going for?

Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 15067153)

Every once in a while I see a flag at half staff and can't figure out why. Maybe the flag raiser just got lazy?

Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 15068648)

hang on...I need to catch up.

Originally Posted by patentcad (Post 15067820)

The odd thing is that @ 196, I really don't look fat. At 180 I start looking thin. At 175 I start looking quite thin. At 170 or less I look rather emaciated, as those photos from Greece I posted last week illustrate. I think that means I have a relatively big frame. Other guys my height (5'11") get down to 150. I get south of 165 and I look like walking death.