Which model stems stiffest?
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Which model stems stiffest?
It's time to upgrade my ancient ride to a 31.8 bar. And with that will be a new stem.
I'm a big guy and torque on things pretty hard as well as requiring a 120-140mm lenght (depending on bar reach).
Which stems are known to be stiffere than the rest? Preferably alu. As, I don't think I'll be spending on carbon at the moment.
Any limp pieces of spaghetti I should avoid?
Who's got the stiffest alloy stem going?
I'm a big guy and torque on things pretty hard as well as requiring a 120-140mm lenght (depending on bar reach).
Which stems are known to be stiffere than the rest? Preferably alu. As, I don't think I'll be spending on carbon at the moment.
Any limp pieces of spaghetti I should avoid?
Who's got the stiffest alloy stem going?
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Check what the pro sprinters are using. Deda 35 (requires the 35mm bar too) is what Greipel is currently using.
Stiffest may be a carbon one. Shimano Cavendish stem or the Zipp 145 (which Cav is using now)
Stiffest may be a carbon one. Shimano Cavendish stem or the Zipp 145 (which Cav is using now)
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true, but aside from length. they all do the same thing. The difference between steel, AL, Ti, Carbon. etc. Is 99% weight. I mean I could get into a convoluted explanation of the history of stems and the many different configurations of stem and handlebar. But 3 people have recommended 4 different stems. I have a deda magic, feels the same as a 3t, specialized, easton, and fsa stems I have used.
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What effect, other than 'feel', does stem stiffness have? I can't imagine it affecting how much force you can put down on the pedals. There can't be that much deflection in a stem.
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If you want something just super stiff try to find a kuota katch stem and handlebars. Those are standard equipment for the kuota KOM, you wont get stiffer than those two IMO.
I have that set and the thing is just insanely stiff.
I have that set and the thing is just insanely stiff.
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i like my Thomson stem. Its plenty stiff and plenty light and has very nice finishing machine work and looks excellent with a matching seatpost.
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I can't tell the difference in any stem I've ever had, maybe mine are all just crappy. Pick one you like the look of and can afford.
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And, the Deda 35 is out, because I would like to stick to the 31.8 dia. standard for the greater selection of potential bars.
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true, but aside from length. they all do the same thing. The difference between steel, AL, Ti, Carbon. etc. Is 99% weight. I mean I could get into a convoluted explanation of the history of stems and the many different configurations of stem and handlebar. But 3 people have recommended 4 different stems. I have a deda magic, feels the same as a 3t, specialized, easton, and fsa stems I have used.
The issue is not weight on the bars, it's leverage during standing sprints while in the drops. Something I'm just starting to refamilliarize myself with. I've ended up in a few lately and the amount of bar flex I experienced was concerning to say the least. The stem is only half of the equation, the bars are the other. But, the feeling of ones bars moving in a manner that differs from that of the frame will one, eventually lead to something breaking, two, result in a loss of power to the cranks and three, contribute to less than predictable steering.
Those of you who are lucky enough to be so light as to not need to worry about such issues are furtunate.
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Ritchey c260 was already on my list and appears to be a good contender.
I have a Thomson post on the bike already. I would probably go with an X4, for the 4 bolt face and increased stack height. But, they're only available in 10deg or 0. I would prefer a 6deg.
So far, it appears that Ritchey C260 is leading the way with only two votes (mine and Hapsmo).
Does anyone have any experience with 3T ARX's? That was the other on my personal list of possibilities.
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Honestly, I'd imagine that the bars are a better place to focus - way more flex possible due to the moment around the stem/steerer.
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I use Deda Zero Nero on my Colnago and my Bianchi with Deda Presa handlebars. Both are stiff and work well together.
https://www.dedaelementi.com/index.ph...mid=89&lang=en
https://www.dedaelementi.com/index.ph...mid=89&lang=en
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Those with sharp angles to the drops definately don't work for me. But, a progressive curve may. I've got a pair of 3T Ergonova's in the garage ready to be mounted up in the new stem once that's decided on. There are also a few other pairs hanging in various mate's garages for me to trial, if I so desire. With regard to bars, I'm imaging it will be a process of finding the favorite shape, then deciding which model from that manufacturer is stiffest.
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A few months ago Velo News published a comparison test of stems and handlebars for stiffness and actual (as opposed to advertised) weight. As I remember, the carbon sets were generally not as stiff as aluminum and the Ritchey WCS sets were stiffer than most and weighed in at the lighter end of the range. The C260 wasn't in the test. 3T was a bit lower down, as was another popular stem, the FSA OS-99. I vote for the Ritchey C260, too.
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I have Thomsons on most my race bikes. Best stem for the money, IMO; fairly light and very stiff. They come in a large variety of lengths and angles as well, which is important to me.
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