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Originally Posted by RUOkie
(Post 15386486)
incorrect
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
(Post 15386395)
Mr. Datlas, I have a different view:
1) Can the person afford this gift? If they are of means, this may be no more than sending flowers is to a pauper. Would you accept flowers? 2) Are you an ethical person, and do you absolutely feel that this would cause you to do something unethical in support of the person? 3) Will it compromise your professional care toward him, his son, or your other patients in the future? 4) Is it a nice color that matches the balance of your kit, and would it fit on the Epic Wednesday ride? I think the answers to this will tell you what to do. If you were a counselor or psychiatrist, I would say it is totally inappropriate. As an MD or surgeon, I have trouble seeing the compromise. Doctors take junkets paid for by drug companies, which I would think far harder to justify as compared to this. Qualifier: I am an engineer. All a customer has ever given me is ****, which I promptly give back. 1. Yes I think he is of decent means. 2. Yes I like to think I am ethical, but I am human and all of us are subject to subconscious or unconscious manipulation 3. As above, I would like to think not but I am well aware that ANYONE can be manipulated 4. It is gorgeous. Black with red accents. I will try to post a pic. And RU is right, the drug companies can no longer easily take a doc on a junket. I suppose it happens sometimes under the guise of "training" or such but I have never done this and don't think I could in the future. Thanks for the comments, everyone! |
Originally Posted by RUOkie
(Post 15386486)
incorrect
Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 15386499)
Shush - we've seen it in the movies.
Honestly, this sounds like a sincere gift. The person obviously put enough effort into it to make an intelligent purchase, that is Mr. Datlas'es size, and is one of the best regarded "endurance" bikes going. If this was simply to curry favor, wouldn't it have had DuraAce? But in full honesty, I would have an impossible time accepting it as well. |
Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 15386386)
I'm busy.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
(Post 15386624)
Booking band gigs?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
(Post 15386624)
Booking band gigs?
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Originally Posted by coasting
(Post 15386029)
accept it with grace. patients get emotional when they get better. nothing wrong with gratitude.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
(Post 15385710)
More importantly, what's the secret to getting a gift like that from a client?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 15386465)
Can you return it after riding it hard and putting it away wet?
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 15386509)
Thanks for the note:
4. It is gorgeous. Black with red accents. I will try to post a pic. |
Originally Posted by RUOkie
(Post 15386486)
incorrect
Originally Posted by truckstop
(Post 15386353)
those uniforms have to be a joke... right?
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Originally Posted by RT
(Post 15386640)
The Gong Show is back? :lol:
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Originally Posted by BillyD
(Post 15386688)
But RU, you can only speak for you.
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Ordered a 56cm Scott Foil 20, I'll transfer Di2 10 speed over to it, sell the Ultegra stuff, cheesy wheels, put the new D.A. 9000 crank and calipers on it. I'll wind up with a bike that's lighter, considerably stiffer. I figure it to be 300+ grams lighter anyway. Eventually I'll add another Ptap G3 on a Williams 38 rear, but for now it will be the non Ptap 38s and mostly the Zipp clinchers. It's not the weight so much that will make that bike faster, it's the stiffer BB.
Faster being a relative term when His Holiness is involved. |
Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 15386750)
Faster being a relative term when His Heftyness is involved.
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That Foil is a very light frame for an aero bike. 900 grams or so for the frame. Hell, the pricier HMX-net frame is listed @ 840 grams . Anything under 1000 grams on a frame is pretty friggin light. I think the S2 frame is 1150-1200 grams. Every review of those aero bikes said the Foil had the stiffest BB. The Addict sure does. You can feel it climbing, no doubt, I ride the S2/Addict back to back all the time. Addict climbs and accelerates better, you can feel it.
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OK here is a picture of the gift bike. It's an iphone pic so not a great image....
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psb0d1d511.jpg |
Originally Posted by patentcad
(Post 15386750)
figure it to be 300+ grams lighter anyway.
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p.s. that's a vintage poster of the "Tour of Somerville" circa 1985 in the corner. Somerville is a town in NJ near where I grew up. They have an annual crit on Memorial Day.
p.p.s. this is my office at work. Yes, I know it's a mess. I need not be reminded. |
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 15386767)
OK here is a picture of the gift bike.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
(Post 15386775)
And you'll still be 200 pounds.
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 15386767)
OK here is a picture of the gift bike. It's an iphone pic so not a great image....
http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/...psb0d1d511.jpg If the doc/patient relationship goes bad, you can always say that you never got the bike, it must've got lost in your messy office and tossed out. |
Your office is a mess.
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Originally Posted by TampaRaleigh
(Post 15386801)
Never mind what I said... keep the bike, it's beautiful.
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flip it
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Where's the big bow? Hasn't this guy ever seen a Lexus commercial around the holidays?
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