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Old 12-21-04 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by climbo
there's always next year.... another year to get slower and older.
Stop it would ya? I might be 40, but I can still live the dream...
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:01 PM
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I must have missed something - when did the english cricket team start winning?
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:05 PM
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I must have missed something - when did the english cricket team start winning?
I dun think anyone really cares.
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulBravey
I must have missed something - when did the english cricket team start winning?
Yep, 8 wins in a row. Most ever

https://www.cricinfo.com/homepage/index99.html
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:17 PM
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I must have missed something - when did the english cricket team start winning?
They've played some **** test teams in that time though. We'll see how they're going when they play us next.
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Yep, 8 wins in a row. Most ever

https://www.cricinfo.com/homepage/index99.html
still a long way from our 16 record.
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:27 PM
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I bought my first Dura-Ace bits yesterday (drum-roll)........... brakepads

I can't believe how fast stuff wears out these days. Chain and cluster 4000km. Brake pads 3000km. Me 1km.
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by rockmuncher
I bought my first Dura-Ace bits yesterday (drum-roll)........... brakepads
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How much? Mine were about 18 bucks a pair.

I don't think 4000km is much out of a cassette and chain.
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
How much? Mine were about 18 bucks a pair.

I don't think 4000km is much out of a cassette and chain.
$17.

I recking it's bloody lousy, especially given that I clean and lube it every week + every time it gets wet. I'm gonna throw on Ultegra replacement with HC73 chain and see how that goes.

I think most of the wear is from sand and road grit. The road grit is super fine and gets into eveything. It feels like talcum powder but it acts like emery. Very hard to get rid of it too. Might need to get a HP water gun except i can use it because of water restrictions, doh!
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Old 12-21-04 | 10:43 PM
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I recking it's bloody lousy, especially given that I clean and lube it every week +d:
What do you call "worn"? Is it slipping, or is it just running crap with a stretched chain?
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Old 12-21-04 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
What do you call "worn"? Is it slipping, or is it just running crap with a stretched chain?
Chain is certified 'stretched to buggery' using chain-guage. No slipping yet, but most freq used cogs are noisy and shifting is very clunky across some.
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Old 12-21-04 | 11:14 PM
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They've played some **** test teams in that time though. We'll see how they're going when they play us next.
They've got to qualify for the A-league yet. Takes a while to work up from C-grade.
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Old 12-21-04 | 11:18 PM
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Rocky.... double wash in a coke/gatorade bottle or whatever with kero. First wash gets the fine grit and ***** off. You've got to shake the bottle like a martini shaker. Hard and for about 45 seconds. Let stand for 30 minutes or so. Pull it out the chain with a bent spoke or something. It will still feel gritty. Wash again in clean kero after draining off the first lot and the sediment. Let it dry in the sun, or get a hair dryer on to it to evaporate off the excess kero and before lubing. Put back on bike. One drop of lube per roller only.

Works for me.

BTW I've 10,000km out of 8sp chain. Cogs and rings are cactus with chain. But I can probably still get another 2000km. 9/10sp chains are renowned for their lack of longevity by comparison.
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Old 12-22-04 | 12:09 AM
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Rocky.... double wash in a coke/gatorade bottle or whatever with kero. First wash gets the fine grit and ***** off. You've got to shake the bottle like a martini shaker. Hard and for about 45 seconds. Let stand for 30 minutes or so. Pull it out the chain with a bent spoke or something. It will still feel gritty. Wash again in clean kero after draining off the first lot and the sediment. Let it dry in the sun, or get a hair dryer on to it to evaporate off the excess kero and before lubing. Put back on bike. One drop of lube per roller only.

Works for me.

BTW I've 10,000km out of 8sp chain. Cogs and rings are cactus with chain. But I can probably still get another 2000km. 9/10sp chains are renowned for their lack of longevity by comparison.
Spot on.

kero or turps. Not petrol....too harsh.
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Old 12-22-04 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ed073
Not petrol....too harsh.
Dries the fingers out

And oh yeah, low flash point, dangerously flammable fumes, etc, etc. You have been warned.
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Old 12-22-04 | 04:09 AM
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WAKE UP you guys. I've been out to dinner with the crew from the boat on which I sail, rode home, and given Chuvak a hard time in General. And I'm still the last guy to post here since 5.18pm. What the hell's going on.

And don't give me that "out riding" rubbish. As if.... sheesh...
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Old 12-22-04 | 04:56 AM
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WAKE UP you guys. I've been out to dinner with the crew from the boat on which I sail, rode home, and given Chuvak a hard time in General. And I'm still the last guy to post here since 5.18pm. What the hell's going on.

And don't give me that "out riding" rubbish. As if.... sheesh...
I was out riding. work to brooklyn via bobbin head. I was so long getting home my wife had given up on going shopping. Now I have to get some sleep.

climbo was racing, well at least I think he was. If he was the beanpole wearing black then he'll need to go on a diet to stay in this forum: he's far too thin! I suggest a few weeks of the supersize me diet.
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:02 AM
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You know, there were a couple of things in the first sentence of your post , rocky, that triggered yet another journo story.

Bobbin Head is well know in yacht racing circles. When I saw Brooklyn I thought: Jack. As in Jack Rooklyn. My mind works in very mysterious ways.

Well, with the Sydney Hobart yacht race not far away, and because the Aussie thread needs some entertainment OTHER than cricket....

The first feature story I ever wrote as a cadet journo was after the finish of the Sydney Hobart race in 197?. Line honours, IIRC, was won by Ballyhoo, a new maxi (in those days 65' was a maxi) owned by Sydney millionaire and pokie machine king Jack Rooklyn. Did the interview in the cabin of the boat, blah, blah, blah about how good he was, replete with big cigar, how he had paid big dollars for the boat and how it was a ***** performer.

Anyway, a day later I'd heard that the designer of Ballyhoo was in town. I tracked him down and spent an hour talking to Bob Miller on the dock. About how Ballyhoo was his best design until Rooklyn decided he wanted a fully-fledged safe installed in the aft cabin. Miller was totally p!ssed because it upset entirely the boat's performance. He was amazed Ballyhoo had done so well. This was between the various idiosynchracies Miller displayed as I talked to him -- nothing serious, but a little distracting -- something that marked him as eccentric. He also had designed, again IIRC, Ceil III, which won a Sydney Hobart (maybe the same one where Ballyhoo was line honours winner) and a variety of other boats, including Apollos for the (in)famous Alan Bond.

Anyway, I thought Ballyhoo, in her green and white livery, was probably the prettiest maxi ever launched. She was eventually sold off by Rooklyn to someone in Hawaii and was renamed Mystic Miss (I think). She whipped @rse in various maxi series in the US after that bluddy safe was removed. Rooklyn bankrolled purchase of another maxi, Apollo, that also had mixed success in various ocean racers, ostensibly under the skippership of Rooklyn's son, Warwick. Miller continued designing yachts with varying levels of success.

Anyway, the feature article was published. I was pretty proud of it. Probably if I looked at it now, I would cower in the corner in embarrasment. But it was a portent.

Not long afterwards, Miller changed his name because of some *****fight over a commerical arrangements. He became... Ben Lexcen.

He went on to design the yacht that wrested the America's Cup from the seppos. and continued a close association with Alan Bond that had been generated with his Apollo designs.

Just thought you'd like to know... even if it sends you to sleep!!!!

(Sad, isn't it, I can't draw on magnificent cycling performances to justify my existence in the world?)
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:05 AM
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No worries Scoz. I got an 04 Roubaix Comp for $4000 on the nose. Yeah, it was the 54. Good fit for me at 5 10 with long legs.

Yeah, they buggered about with the components this year. The Elite/Comp/Pro have the same frame this year, with the Elite being 105/Ultegra at around $3900 retail (for BX folk). Comp having Ultegra 10/Dura Ace for about $4800. Pro having full Dura Ace for a whack more again. The 05 Elite, still the good frame, just with a few 105 pieces, so it could be the go if you like the Roubaixes. They all might be a bit dear though still yeah?


Yeah 4k was not what I had intended to spend. But if I throw some more cash at it I can probably get a frame I'll be happy with for longer and I wont be looking for something better right away, thats what I'm worried about. And I'm only 5'7 so I guess I'd be looking at the 52 then...

Maybe the bikeshop would allow me to ditch the composite crank and the Mavics to keep the cost down... we'll see

So is the Roubaix a good ride or what? Thanks, badsac.
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:14 AM
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Any of you guys seen the 1985 cycling movie 'American Flyers' starring Kevin Costner?

A mate gave it to me and I watched it the other night. Its very 80's with plenty of bad acting and Eddy Merckx even makes a very brief appearance. Watch it!
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:18 AM
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Any of you guys seen the 1985 cycling movie 'American Flyers' starring Kevin Costner?

A mate gave it to me and I watched it the other night. Its very 80's with plenty of bad acting and Eddy Merckx even makes a very brief appearance. Watch it!
It is CRAP!!!
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
It is CRAP!!!
Blunt...

Been taking lessons?
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:24 AM
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It is CRAP!!!

Yeah its crap. But I got a laugh out of it.
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:27 AM
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And Costner???!!??

They could've used someone who DIDN'T have chicken legs
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Old 12-22-04 | 06:30 AM
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And Costner???!!??

They could've used someone who DIDN'T have chicken legs

I was thinking the same thing. He just wasnt convincing.
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