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531Aussie 11-03-04 07:49 AM

Cheeky Monkey were also offloading other 2004 Cervelos

http://www.cheekymonkey.com.au/mulhome.htm

Scroll down at this Cheeky Monkey address to the Cervelo specials

I know I'm a bit of Cervelo fan, but $3000 is awesome for an Ultegra Soloist, especially
if they come with the Velomax wheels.

They've had the specials up for a couple of months, so I dunno if it's
up to date.
http://www.cervelo.com/images/2004/2004-SLT-full.jpg

531Aussie 11-03-04 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by Scoz
I'd have to be a sucka to drop my money on a De Rosa at the price they ask. Around here a De Rosa 'Team' frame with carbon fork goes for $2200 AUD. And its one very ordinary looking frame, I wont be robbed just to have a bike with a ding name.

Euro trash!

That's gotta be the cheapest De Rosa frame in the country :)

Scoz 11-03-04 07:57 AM

[QUOTE=badsac]I'm told Avanti's aren't available until next year. You can really get them over there Scoz?

No, no new one's here until January either. Avanti and Giant are just what is available at my LBS's.

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Scoz
And the guy at Glen Parker Cycles was only interested in getting me on some dodgy lookin 'Cytek' bike.

I wanted something with Ultegra 10 speed, but January is long way away...

Glen Parker; he's a Cervelo dealer!! :D Get one!

Both the Cytek Massimos (Ultegra model and the Dura-Ace model) are Columbus Airplane
alooominum, which is one of their
better tube-sets

badsac 11-03-04 08:12 AM

531Aussie: So Merida's are dodge then? Scrap that.

"Tell me again why they have no 2004 bikes there?"

Sorry?

Bah, I was going to go to Cheeky monkey before my ill fated central coast run, so I guess I should check them out before I'm done. I really would like to just bludy buy something local and forget about the travelling though.

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by badsac
531Aussie: So Merida's are dodge then? Scrap that.

"Tell me again why they have no 2004 bikes there?"

Sorry?

Bah, I was going to go to Cheeky monkey before my ill fated central coast run, so I guess I should check them out before I'm done. I really would like to just bludy buy something local and forget about the travelling though.

Jeez, Saccy, do you work normal hours? I don't. :)

Sorry, I mucked up. Why hasn't your local shop got a stack of 2004 bikes to sell cheap?

Meridas haven't been producing high end biukes for very long, so, to me, they're
still kinda like Diamondback and Raceline road bikes.

Scoz 11-03-04 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Glen Parker; he's a Cervelo dealer!! :D Get one!

Both the Cytek Massimos (Ultegra model and the Dura-Ace model) are Columbus Airplane
alooominum, which is one of their
better tube-sets


Glen Parker does have some nice bikes, they had a nice ultegra Cervelo SuperProdigy last time I was there, its gone now though. And I just dont like the the quality of the Cyteks, but at those prices they probably arent a bad buy.

badsac 11-03-04 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Jeez, Saccy, do you work normal hours? I don't. :)

I'm a public servant. I work whatever hours I please (to a degree). :p


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Sorry, I mucked up. Why hasn't your local shop got a stack of 2004 bikes to sell cheap?

Hokay. Bathurst shop has a Six13 at 5.5, a Roubaix Comp at 4.5 (will give it to me for 4), and a Giant TSR Composite 1 for 4.3, plus a gazillion Sora equiped bikes. Orange has the above mentioned Felt, and a Trek 1400. Rest are cheapies. So basically nothing in my range besides the Felt. I cant tell you how close I am to saying "FOOKIT!!!" and just dropping 4 on that Roubaix.

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:27 AM

I hate to rub it in, but I've got about 9 or 10 bike shops in a 10km radius.

I also prefer to stay local. When I bought the Cervelo I had to go about 25km
to Croydon..AAAAAgh/..in my CAR for fukks sake :) The guy said something about
popping back for some follow-up crap, and I said: "forget it -- I ain't coming
all the way out here again.
I don't mind riding that far, but driving??!?!?......in traffic??!?!!!?..SHEESH.....AROONY

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by badsac
Hokay. Bathurst shop has a Six13 at 5.5, a Roubaix Comp at 4.5 (will give it to me for 4), and a Giant TSR Composite 1 for 4.3, plus a gazillion Sora equiped bikes. Orange has the above mentioned Felt, and a Trek 1400. Rest are cheapies. So basically nothing in my range besides the Felt. I cant tell you how close I am to saying "FOOKIT!!!" and just dropping 4 on that Roubaix.

That's right, you decided long ago that all those bikes were too steep.

I know it's "prcie creep" again, but an extra $700 for the Specialized....hmmmm, i'd be tempted.

badsac 11-03-04 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I hate to rub it in, but I've got about 9 or 10 bike shops in a 10km radius.

I also prefer to stay local. When I bought the Cervelo I had to go about 25km
to Croydon..AAAAAgh/..in my CAR for fukks sake :) The guy said something about
popping back for some follow-up crap, and I said: "forget it -- I ain't coming
all the way out here again.
I don't mind riding that far, but driving??!?!?......in traffic??!?!!!?..SHEESH.....AROONY

I could strangle you. :(

Why does Melbourne seem like the centre of Australia's bike riding community anyway? All the shops. All the crazies on here. I could hardly think of a dodgier place to ride pushies. :confused:


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
That's right, you decided long ago that all those bikes were too steep.

I know it's "prcie creep" again, but an extra $700 for the Specialized....hmmmm, i'd be tempted.

Yeah. Probably only thing stopping me is that I think a few to many people have been throwing their leg over the top tube as it seems a bit scuffed. Can you buff fine scratches out of clear coat on carbon without making it look foggy? Maybe that'll get me pedals and shoes thrown in just to move it?

Bah, I guess I better go to work in the morning. Better go have a kip. :)

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Scoz
Glen Parker does have some nice bikes, they had a nice ultegra Cervelo SuperProdigy last time I was there, its gone now though. And I just dont like the the quality of the Cyteks, but at those prices they probably arent a bad buy.

Just lookin' at his site, and he's got some good brands on his "products" list.

on his specials (http://www.glenparker.com/specials.html): that De Rosa
actually sounds reasonable.....for a De Rosa. Must be a SH1T colour.

The Cinelli Proxima frame is a bit steep -- I know a guy who got an '03 model for 800 bucks.

I heard there's a problem with carbon Meridas (cracking), which is probably why that one is cheap.

The Pinarello is a fukkn rip-off. That is their 2nd bottom model, but they look great :)

The Pinarello Prince...$4400!?!? for fukn aloooominum!!!! Fukn joke (hope you're not religious :) )

(don't worry, I'm just amusing myself here....I'll continue...)

That Cytek Gervasio sounds reasonable for an Ultegra bike

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by badsac
Why does Melbourne seem like the centre of Australia's bike riding community anyway? All the shops. All the crazies on here. I could hardly think of a dodgier place to ride pushies.:)

Man..I rode around Sydney one time...FAAAARK, and that was about 15 years ago.

Let's face it, it's hard to knock the theory that our weather's a bit crap, so all we've got for half the year
is SPORT SPORT SPORT. It's a bit low brow (la di da), but probably true.



Originally Posted by badsac
Yeah. Probably only thing stopping me is that I think a few to many people have been throwing their leg over the top tube as it seems a bit scuffed. Can you buff fine scratches out of clear coat on carbon without making it look foggy? Maybe that'll get me pedals and shoes thrown in just to move it?
:)

That's IT. Get the Specialized!!!! If you're considering $3500 for a Giant,
then I'd go for the Roubaix. This also means that I've narrowed your choice down to ONE, and the bike is ready to go. :D
Man oh man (aroony), imagine going from a steel MTB to a carbon Specialized.....WOW

I would'nt give a stuff about some scuff marks -- wait 'til you see what a few Bathurts rocks
will do to the underside of the down-tube :D

rockmuncher 11-03-04 02:54 PM

531Aussie sed "I'm trying to talk my mate into buying a 2004, 105 equipped Gitane for $1500."

The paintwerk is ULTRA thin. The dereilleur cables have rubbed a hole in the headstock paintwork after just 200km!!??!! If you do convince you mate to buy a gitane, make sure you get him to install tape, laquer, cable shroud, or something to stop the cables rubbing on the paint. The problem is made worse if you get a little bit of grit on the cable. Acts like coarse sandpaper.

Anyway, time for me to get down to Hobby Co for some enamel....

Hitchy 11-03-04 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
531Aussie sed "I'm trying to talk my mate into buying a 2004, 105 equipped Gitane for $1500."

The paintwerk is ULTRA thin. The dereilleur cables have rubbed a hole in the headstock paintwork after just 200km!!??!! If you do convince you mate to buy a gitane, make sure you get him to install tape, laquer, cable shroud, or something to stop the cables rubbing on the paint. The problem is made worse if you get a little bit of grit on the cable. Acts like coarse sandpaper.

Anyway, time for me to get down to Hobby Co for some enamel....

ummm maybe its just me....but doesn't everybody put clear 'patches' over the frame anywhere the cable is likely to rub?....maybe I'm a fanatic?............Hey saccy, when you blokes finally get outta bed....check the Orbea range...not being in the market for a new bike, I hadn't taken much notice of Orbea, (well except for the 'orca' & the 'onix'), but they have a huge range. This months 'ride' mag has a 3 page spread on all the models......be worth having a look i reckon

Hitchy

Hitchy 11-03-04 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
Hey Hitchy, I'm starting to see a few 486's on Beach Road. Looks like the publicity from you riding one on the 'Warnie' has paid off for LOOK. ;)

I tried to get the wife to give me financial approval to purchase a C50 frame while in Noosa. She thought it looked great and was happy till the sales person told her it was worth $7.5K. Bugger!

BTW, it looks like I'm gunna have lot's of time to ride as I quit my contract just before I went on Holidays. Don't know what I'm gunna do, but I'm fed up with IT and Project Management. Maybe I can open a bike shop?? Looking for some suggestions fellas...


G'day wattsy,

the 05 range has just landed. I haven't seen any on the road yet though. The only 04's i ever seen 'live' are the black & white & the credit agricole team in red that those pro's had at the sun tour this year. Job wise.....you having a mid life crisis wattsy?.....me too.....I'm over working for a living, (well being a finance puke, anyway), unfortunately the mortgage beast needs to be fed....& having done this for so long, there probably not much else I could do & earn the same $$$.......would love something in the bike industry....BV had a job last week going for a Commercial manager......I'm actually looking at the books of a bike shop at the moment (you'd be staggered who is looking for a cash injection) with a view to buying in. My accountant reckons I'm crazy, theres no money in them.....but I'm looking for something to 'DO' as well as an investment...maybe, we'll see. So what do you wanna do?

hitchy

badsac 11-03-04 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Man..I rode around Sydney one time...FAAAARK, and that was about 15 years ago.

Let's face it, it's hard to knock the theory that our weather's a bit crap, so all we've got for half the year
is SPORT SPORT SPORT. It's a bit low brow (la di da), but probably true.


That's IT. Get the Specialized!!!! If you're considering $3500 for a Giant,
then I'd go for the Roubaix. This also means that I've narrowed your choice down to ONE, and the bike is ready to go. :D
Man oh man (aroony), imagine going from a steel MTB to a carbon Specialized.....WOW

I would'nt give a stuff about some scuff marks -- wait 'til you see what a few Bathurts rocks
will do to the underside of the down-tube :D

I tell ya. I'm only a brain fart away from getting it. It's even in my size. It must be fate. Have to make sure I stay away from the local for a while just in case my brain goes off. ;)


Originally Posted by Hitchy
Hey saccy, when you blokes finally get outta bed....check the Orbea range...not being in the market for a new bike, I hadn't taken much notice of Orbea, (well except for the 'orca' & the 'onix'), but they have a huge range. This months 'ride' mag has a 3 page spread on all the models......be worth having a look i reckon

Hitchy

Yeah, the orange fella who was doing them was telling me about that catalogue in Ride. The prices given sounded a bit overpriced, but just getting read them over the phone could be deceptive. I'll have to go down and have a look at lunch.

Hitchy 11-03-04 05:11 PM

Oi 531,

when you drag your sorry arse out of bed after spending half the night in front of the 'puter....what cerevelo frame is pink?......I was out at the airport last night doing a few hours of 'aerobic' (to 80%) when this triathlete looking dude on a pink cervelo absolutely 'smoked' me. I reckon he lapped me 3 times over the 8km circuit!. i consoled myself that i was in the small ring & just spinning.....& he was on a pink bike!....had CBD cycles sponsorship on it......so what model is pink?

Hitchy

ed073 11-03-04 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by Hitchy
Oi 531,

when you drag your sorry arse out of bed after spending half the night in front of the 'puter....what cerevelo frame is pink?......I was out at the airport last night doing a few hours of 'aerobic' (to 80%) when this triathlete looking dude on a pink cervelo absolutely 'smoked' me. I reckon he lapped me 3 times over the 8km circuit!. i consoled myself that i was in the small ring & just spinning.....& he was on a pink bike!....had CBD cycles sponsorship on it......so what model is pink?

Hitchy


I think those frames are big in Sydney.

Hitchy 11-03-04 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by ed073
I think those frames are big in Sydney.


...hmmm..... hadn't thought about that.....he did have gold lame knicks on!

badsac 11-03-04 08:35 PM

Hey, I've got a good friend in the US who I've been yarning to about my bike buying woes. Exchange rate is good at the minute. What's the downside of buying OS? Just no warranty, and the bike getting damaged/missing in transit? Are there big customs issues or anything? Anybody know?

Hitchy 11-03-04 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by badsac
Hey, I've got a good friend in the US who I've been yarning to about my bike buying woes. Exchange rate is good at the minute. What's the downside of buying OS? Just no warranty, and the bike getting damaged/missing in transit? Are there big customs issues or anything? Anybody know?

g'day,

a mate of mine looked at this for an 04 madone. even given the excahnge rate, they were around $5k US & about $10K AUD. You have to pay GST & import duty, you'll need to insure it.....still works out a heap cheaper importing it yourself. the problem he faced, (& why he didn't go thru with it!), was that the bike companies like to protect their local distributors & trek refused to warranty the bike in OZ. if he wanted warranty, he needed to ship it back to the states. Cos the madone was seen as a bit 'ify',9turned out it wasn't), he didn't want to sacrifice his warranty. You'll need someone in the states you can trust, but other than that you should be fine provided you sort out the warranty.

Another mate of mine had a really crap old gruppo & wheels put on a new frame, threw a bit of crap on it & just had it sent back claiming it was his race bike that he took over with him.....didn't have to pay duty or GST.....but I think he mighta got lucky

Hitchy

531Aussie 11-03-04 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by rockmuncher
531Aussie sed "I'm trying to talk my mate into buying a 2004, 105 equipped Gitane for $1500."

The paintwerk is ULTRA thin. The dereilleur cables have rubbed a hole in the headstock paintwork after just 200km!!??!! If you do convince you mate to buy a gitane, make sure you get him to install tape, laquer, cable shroud, or something to stop the cables rubbing on the paint. The problem is made worse if you get a little bit of grit on the cable. Acts like coarse sandpaper.

Anyway, time for me to get down to Hobby Co for some enamel....

Thanks, Munchy

rockmuncher 11-03-04 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by badsac
Hey, I've got a good friend in the US who I've been yarning to about my bike buying woes. Exchange rate is good at the minute. What's the downside of buying OS? Just no warranty, and the bike getting damaged/missing in transit? Are there big customs issues or anything? Anybody know?

Customs collect GST on anything valued at more than AUD500. That means you are likely to have any decent bike impounded until the appropriate tax is paid. It's a right royal pain in the neck if you have to do it by yourself. Customs have a little game they play called "lets keep the sucker waiting". I'm sure they have money on it.

Freight will also be pricey if you shove it on a plane because everything is measured by weight AND volume. Make sure you have the right insurance (and the right amount). Items do go missing, especially if the contents are known and desirable. eg. "TREK 5500" in big black letters across the carton would raise an eyebrow or two at various freight handling points along the chain. :)

rockmuncher 11-03-04 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by 531Aussie
Thanks, Munchy

WTF?? Munchy?? That's like a freakin pet name or summint. Sheesh. And he hardly even knows me.


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