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Old 11-08-04 | 04:30 AM
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Bikes: how long have you got?

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If you're quick...finishes in 28 minutes...bargain

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Old 11-08-04 | 04:51 AM
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Hey Badsac, I know a guy who grew up in Bathurst, and who's father still lives there. Ever heard of the Clancy clan?
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Old 11-08-04 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
Hey Badsac, I know a guy who grew up in Bathurst, and who's father still lives there. Ever heard of the Clancy clan?

.....I've heard of 'Clancy of the Overflow'...that him?
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Old 11-08-04 | 05:08 AM
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.....I've heard of 'Clancy of the Overflow'...that him?
G'day Hitchy. Hhhhmmm, not knowing whether badsac knows this guy (you know what country towns are like...brothers marrying sisters etc) I can't be too descriptive. I think it's fair to say that badsac's last post (9.14pm) is a fair descrtiption of what my mate would say. So, the answer is yes, he is Clancy of the Overflow...the question is Overflowing with what?
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Old 11-08-04 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by badsac
Yeah that's the thing. I don't know what they look like in real life, but I think the TCR carbons look shocking this year in the catalogue with those bloody flames. They'd be sweet if they just had a clean transition between the colour and the carbon.

So it's between Orange and Bathurst. Orbea Liege C ( Centaur - Alu/Carbon) or TCR Euro (Centaur - Carbon). Both at about $3.75k. Liege C is 8.8 kg. I'd imagine the TCR would be about 8. Will a bit over half a kg make a huge difference? Will I be able to live with the Giants crap looks?
I agree with Hitchy......go with the one you feel better with......
I ended up getting a heavier steel frame Pinarello with Campag over a lighter Alu frame Trek with 105 and have not looked back at all.
My bike is unreal to ride and I saved some $'s in the process.
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Old 11-08-04 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
...one thing I do know about bikes, whatever your choice, you've gotta be happy with it. If you don't like how it looks, or handles, no amount of money spent or saved will stop you from regreting it. You might rationalise it to yourself on price, or reputation, or how it handles, but if you don't love it YOU'LL always know, regardless of what you tell other people. All other things being equal, go with how YOU feel about the bike

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Ah wise words indeed. I couldn't agree more. I mean, I don't know if the Giant would look as bad in real life as it does in the pics. But flames are only ever going to be tacky aren't they? "He who has the most carbon wins" or not, I just can't live with tacky.

Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
Hey Badsac, I know a guy who grew up in Bathurst, and who's father still lives there. Ever heard of the Clancy clan?
Well I play cricket against a Paul, Tony, (and another brother I can't remember his name though) Clancy. There's a few kicking about. They're all in their 30's. Don't know if they're related. Do you remember any first names?
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:09 AM
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Hey Scoz. Just talked to the local Orbea dude. He quoted $2800 for Orbea Lobular 100% carbon. Don't know if there's any difference between it and the 04 frame. But that's a lot of dough.
Yeah too much dough, love the Euskaltel paint though. Thanks for asking on the price, badsac.
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hitchy
Scoz,

If you're quick...finishes in 28 minutes...bargain

https://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....111351479&rd=1

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I was too slow... It went for $350!, bloody hell that was cheap.
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Old 11-08-04 | 01:54 PM
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certainly havent read 77pgs of thread to know what the current discussion is, but i know you're looking for aussies. 1/3 oz, way of perth. now in chicago.
my vote is for VB, and some of that passionfruit punch. and i vote strawberry allens for the best carbs around.
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Old 11-08-04 | 03:57 PM
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I've said this before, and I know it's heresy, but i liked Carlton Cold before
they dropped the booze content from 4.9% to 4.2% (or whatever) to avoid some new alcohol tax.

Why am I up? Good question......more fukn root canalses.
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Old 11-08-04 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 531Aussie
I've said this before, and I know it's heresy, but i liked Carlton Cold before
they dropped the booze content from 4.9% to 4.2% (or whatever) to avoid some new alcohol tax.

Why am I up? Good question......more fukn root canalses.


Carlton Cold reminds me too much of being 19 and vomiting in someone's toilet at a party.....not a fan these days.
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Old 11-08-04 | 04:02 PM
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I was too slow... It went for $350!, bloody hell that was cheap.

I nearly brought it for ya!......keep an eye out on ebay, theres quite a few in there at the moment. You do know that the S710 is exactly the same as the S720, but has a plastic cover, rather than the metal of the 720?.....no other differences at all. I brought the 720 cos I'm a klutz & figured the 720 with steel might be a bit more 'robust', (but I busted it anyway )....but they replaced it under warranty even though it was my fault

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Old 11-08-04 | 04:03 PM
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1/3 oz, way of perth. now in chicago.
Ah Chicago...Coldest place I ever visited. I saw a bloke riding his road bike in the middle of February once. Never seen anyone where a full face mask with an air filter to warm the air before it's inhaled prior to this, or since. There was not one inch of flesh exposed to the elements. Anyhow, welcome.


Well I play cricket against a Paul, Tony, (and another brother I can't remember his name though) Clancy. There's a few kicking about. They're all in their 30's. Don't know if they're related. Do you remember any first names?
My mates name is Peter Clancy. His mum died about 15 years ago and he has a brother and sister who both live in the town. Peter (or Sh*thouse) as I like to call him is about 33 and lives in London at the moment.
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Old 11-08-04 | 04:04 PM
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Carlton Cold reminds me too much of being 19 and vomiting in someone's toilet at a party.....not a fan these days.
Remember when they tried to put it in plastic bottles? Fark and/or hell!!
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Old 11-08-04 | 04:33 PM
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Remember when they tried to put it in plastic bottles? Fark and/or hell!!
What? THey put ed's vomit in a plastic bottle. just for safekeeping?
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Old 11-08-04 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wattsy_rules
My mates name is Peter Clancy. His mum died about 15 years ago and he has a brother and sister who both live in the town. Peter (or Sh*thouse) as I like to call him is about 33 and lives in London at the moment.
The other brother I know's name is David. Their fathers called Bob. Not sure about Peter, but I might do a little asking about. You've got me intrigued.

We're talking about beer? If it costs less than $40 a carton, I'm not interested.
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Old 11-08-04 | 05:27 PM
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We're talking about beer? If it costs less than $40 a carton, I'm not interested

.....geez, expensive tastes up there in 'Bathirsty'.......actually, apart from West end & Southwalk, I've never met a beer I didn't like....just some are better than others!....all time fave?.....Carlsburg Elephant beer...its about 7%. I once got 'spiflicated' at the carlsburg factory tour in Denmark.A factory tour was about $5 AUD which included 2 free beers....as this stuff costs about that much a pot over there....the only sensible thing to do was take 1/2 a dozen factory tours.......

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[QUOTE=HitchyI once got 'spiflicated' at the carlsburg factory tour in Denmark.A factory tour was about $5 AUD which included 2 free beers....as this stuff costs about that much a pot over there....the only sensible thing to do was take 1/2 a dozen factory tours.......

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... and then ride home
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:39 PM
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Yeah that's the thing. I don't know what they look like in real life, but I think the TCR carbons look shocking this year in the catalogue with those bloody flames. They'd be sweet if they just had a clean transition between the colour and the carbon.
Hey Sacc, i was talking to my bike shop guy, and asked him: "what do you say to
someone who says they've got $4000 to spend?"

He Goes: "straight away I'd be looking at Dura Ace -- most likely with aluminium"

Never know, he might be able to do something for ya, but he's obviously a long way away,
in Moorabbin.
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:42 PM
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Hey Aus. So he's of the opinion to spend all the dough on good components and put it on a crap frame? Aluminium is alright if it doesn't knock me around on these **** roads out here. Did he make any suggestions as to actual bikes?
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:46 PM
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Hey Aus. So he's of the opinion to spend all the dough on good components and put it on a crap frame? Aluminium is alright if it doesn't knock me around on these **** roads out here. Did he make any suggestions as to actual bikes?
Nah, I was at his house (yeah, I know him that well) giving him and his misses a guitar lesson,
so I didn't wanna bug him about it.

He's got today off, so I'll quiz him tomorrow.
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:53 PM
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Thanks for that. It's always seemed to me that it's easier to get a reasonably good frame with okay componenets and upgrade the componenets as needed? But I guess if you can get good components all in one go for a start, then it's just one more step to throw them on a good frame. I'd say I'd wear components out before going for another frame though.
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Old 11-08-04 | 07:56 PM
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.....geez,
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Hey Hitchyaroonyoh, I actually drivv me car, during the day(!!), in traffic (!!) , into the
fukn Chaddy fukn carpark, and them pr1cks at that big newsagent didn't have "RIDE"!!

So I brang that copy of Cycle Sport, with the "who is the best ever Aussie rider" article in it......groovy

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Old 11-08-04 | 08:01 PM
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Thanks for that. It's always seemed to me that it's easier to get a reasonably good frame with okay componenets and upgrade the componenets as needed? But I guess if you can get good components all in one go for a start, then it's just one more step to throw them on a good frame. I'd say I'd wear components out before going for another frame though.
What does Hitchy reckon about riding carbon vs alooominum on your rough roads? He has both.

I reckon you're right, that if the roads are really crap, the frame probably is the issue.

I should say that I've never really ridden carbon more than a few kms, and of the four aluminum
frames I've owned, I'd only ride one of them on rough roads (1999 Specialized Allez Comp) -- the others
are what I call "BROBs": "Beach Road only bikes".
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Old 11-08-04 | 08:16 PM
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Aww, that's not filling me with confidence about your lbs guy's initial opinion. I was just getting to like the idea of Dura-Ace (although it would be way to good for me).

Okay, I asked this in one of the seppos threads but I'll ask it here as well, since seppos are silly.

Removable roof rack + bike carrier (roof rack would be off mostly). Besides smashing your bike on low objects, what's the downside to your bike and car to using this system? What do you guys use?
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