Have to say this....
09-17-13 | 12:10 PM
#77
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From: Canada
09-17-13 | 12:13 PM
#78
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Bikes: MBK Super Mirage 1991, CAAD10, Yuba Mundo Lux, and a Cannondale Criterium Single Speed
09-17-13 | 12:14 PM
#79
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From: Sacramento, California, USA
Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur
Funny, just this morning I was thinking about how I'm going to build my old 5200 back up into a winter/beater/commuter/training bike. Great old bike, they handed them out with our JD's at graduation.
09-17-13 | 12:33 PM
#80
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Bikes: Cannondale EVO, CAAD9, Giant cross bike.
Interesting.
Specialized manufactures no bikes. They design bikes and have them built in Asia. Not necessarily a bad thing, just a thing. In the bike bike industry they are known for cutting edge technology, great graphics, and being d!@ks to work with.
Cannondale used to make bikes in America, but they ended that practice a while back.[B] Almost all of the major company's have caught up with [/B](or surpassed) C'Dales expertise with aluminium, but their new carbon bikes have received a lot of press (Sagan perhaps?). They are currently owned by a Canadian company that likes to put bikes in big box stores.
Trek makes the Madone 6 & 7 series in Waterloo, everything else is made in Asia. Trek stores are ubiquitous (Lance effect?), which for many people makes Treks mundane.
Giant is the only company of the four mentioned that doesn't have roots in the U.S. They are the largest adult bicycle manufacturer in the world and make many other company's (American and European) bikes.
My point? People buy a particular brand for different reasons- convenience, value, familiarity, bandwagon, coolness, avant garde looks and technology, and/or advice from a respected associate.
Perhaps the better question is why do we belittle other peoples choices?
Is it as rpenmanparker put it, "Face it, it is the Bike Forums equivalent of middle school bullying. The parallels between adolescent school clique behavior and bicycling poserism are amazing."
Unfortunately that seems to be the case. Every forum, every industry trade paper, and every industry media outlet I read has it's share of negative comments, boo birds, and/or people who choose to belittle other peoples choices or ideas. I just don't get it. Ride your Trek, Specialized, C'Dale, Giant, or Huffy where you want, and how you want. It's your choice, your money, and your time. Suum cuique.
Sorry to interrupt, I'll go back to work now.
Specialized manufactures no bikes. They design bikes and have them built in Asia. Not necessarily a bad thing, just a thing. In the bike bike industry they are known for cutting edge technology, great graphics, and being d!@ks to work with.
Cannondale used to make bikes in America, but they ended that practice a while back.[B] Almost all of the major company's have caught up with [/B](or surpassed) C'Dales expertise with aluminium, but their new carbon bikes have received a lot of press (Sagan perhaps?). They are currently owned by a Canadian company that likes to put bikes in big box stores.
Trek makes the Madone 6 & 7 series in Waterloo, everything else is made in Asia. Trek stores are ubiquitous (Lance effect?), which for many people makes Treks mundane.
Giant is the only company of the four mentioned that doesn't have roots in the U.S. They are the largest adult bicycle manufacturer in the world and make many other company's (American and European) bikes.
My point? People buy a particular brand for different reasons- convenience, value, familiarity, bandwagon, coolness, avant garde looks and technology, and/or advice from a respected associate.
Perhaps the better question is why do we belittle other peoples choices?
Is it as rpenmanparker put it, "Face it, it is the Bike Forums equivalent of middle school bullying. The parallels between adolescent school clique behavior and bicycling poserism are amazing."
Unfortunately that seems to be the case. Every forum, every industry trade paper, and every industry media outlet I read has it's share of negative comments, boo birds, and/or people who choose to belittle other peoples choices or ideas. I just don't get it. Ride your Trek, Specialized, C'Dale, Giant, or Huffy where you want, and how you want. It's your choice, your money, and your time. Suum cuique.
Sorry to interrupt, I'll go back to work now.
In this epistle this gem was nested. I am still laughing.
Nobody's aluminum bike touches the quality of the tubing on a CAAD10 which is why Cannondale offers a $3,500 bike on that frame. You won't find many $3,500 aluminum bikes for sale these days.
Wow.
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09-17-13 | 12:36 PM
#81
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Relax, I own a Colnago C59 and there is always someone who feels compelled to criticize the bike or the brand.
I think that Treks are tecnologically well made bikes that give you a lot of bang for the buck. As someone has already mentioned, however, their color schemes tend to run on the garish side. Taste is a subjective thing, however.
Enjoy your bike and the heck what others may think.
I think that Treks are tecnologically well made bikes that give you a lot of bang for the buck. As someone has already mentioned, however, their color schemes tend to run on the garish side. Taste is a subjective thing, however.
Enjoy your bike and the heck what others may think.
I love Colnagos. I just like making fun of the pot bellied older man wrapped in a team kit that usually is perched on top of one.
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09-17-13 | 12:37 PM
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My first "real" bike was a Trek. I loved Trek, I told everyone to buy a Trek.
When LA started winning I liked to point out that he rode Trek too.
Then Trek did me wrong on a warranty claim. They were not nice about it either.
I stopped talking about Trek, nothing positive or negative.
Then they did the owner of my favorite LBS wrong.
When asked, I suggest other brands. If they ask about Trek specifically, I convince them not to buy Trek.
Since November of last year I have talked 11 people out buying Trek.
All that aside, I think Trek's are ugly. Especially their road bikes.
When LA started winning I liked to point out that he rode Trek too.
Then Trek did me wrong on a warranty claim. They were not nice about it either.
I stopped talking about Trek, nothing positive or negative.
Then they did the owner of my favorite LBS wrong.
When asked, I suggest other brands. If they ask about Trek specifically, I convince them not to buy Trek.
Since November of last year I have talked 11 people out buying Trek.
All that aside, I think Trek's are ugly. Especially their road bikes.
09-17-13 | 12:37 PM
#83
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From: Someplace trying to figure it out
Bikes: Cannondale EVO, CAAD9, Giant cross bike.
There are two types of bike customers:
1. Those that buy on and for performance.
2. Those that buy due to looks.
There is little overlap amongst these groups.
And on this forum, riders who do not own what you are discussing automatically say whateveer they don't own sucks. It defends their purchase.
Been that way for years. It's one of the things that defines this place.
And if you are riding pro stuff, none of it sucks. As for me, I ride what I ride due to relationships.
Enjoy...
1. Those that buy on and for performance.
2. Those that buy due to looks.
There is little overlap amongst these groups.
And on this forum, riders who do not own what you are discussing automatically say whateveer they don't own sucks. It defends their purchase.
Been that way for years. It's one of the things that defines this place.
And if you are riding pro stuff, none of it sucks. As for me, I ride what I ride due to relationships.
Enjoy...
09-17-13 | 12:59 PM
#84
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From: take your time, enjoy the scenery, it will be there when you get to it
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Personally I don't care if anyone doped. I'm pretty sure that I would have doped to win, if that was the only way I could beat the best riders of the era.
09-17-13 | 01:02 PM
#85
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From: Limey in Taiwan
Trek always has very pretty bikes.
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09-17-13 | 01:04 PM
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09-17-13 | 01:06 PM
#87
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Wasn't directed at you but at those that blame Trek for Lance's doping. Would be like blaming Texas for George W Bush. I've ridden Trek for 10 years, it wasn't because of Lance it was because it was the best bike FOR ME.
09-17-13 | 01:15 PM
#88
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Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
09-17-13 | 01:19 PM
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Honestly, I don't hate Trek bicycles. They aren't one of my favorite brands, but I can't think of a bicycle manufacturer that I absolutely love either.
09-17-13 | 01:25 PM
#90
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You are an *******. I ride a Van Dessel. Anyone who doesn't recognize there superiority with unbridled love is an ignoramus.
09-17-13 | 01:38 PM
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From: Brodhead, WI - south of Madison
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09-17-13 | 01:57 PM
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If I was forced to name my favorite bicycle manufacturer, I'd say Colnago, but I wouldn't buy a new one tomorrow if I had the cash.
I really need a custom frame because my legs are so much longer than my torso.
I sold my 2 old Colnagos last summer because I needed to pay some bills, and I'm kicking myself now.
09-17-13 | 02:03 PM
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Well I'm not sure what you called me, but it doesn't bother me either.
If I was forced to name my favorite bicycle manufacturer, I'd say Colnago, but I wouldn't buy a new one tomorrow if I had the cash.
I really need a custom frame because my legs are so much longer than my torso.
I sold my 2 old Colnagos last summer because I needed to pay some bills, and I'm kicking myself now.
If I was forced to name my favorite bicycle manufacturer, I'd say Colnago, but I wouldn't buy a new one tomorrow if I had the cash.
I really need a custom frame because my legs are so much longer than my torso.
I sold my 2 old Colnagos last summer because I needed to pay some bills, and I'm kicking myself now.
09-17-13 | 02:33 PM
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09-17-13 | 02:38 PM
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Sorry man, I guess it wasn't obvious. I was trying to mock on all those who think that their choice is the best, to the exclusion of all others, because it's, um, theirs. And I was just using your post as a jumping off point.
09-17-13 | 02:42 PM
#100
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If the op thinks treks are bashed, just bring up Rivendell.
Treks would be bashed much less if they weren't being ridden everywhere. They are very common bikes and common is going to take a little heat.
Treks would be bashed much less if they weren't being ridden everywhere. They are very common bikes and common is going to take a little heat.