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05-04-14, 09:20 PM
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05-04-14, 10:50 PM
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05-05-14, 01:03 AM
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Short (30 miles) but good ride. Breezy and crisp spring day.
I really need to change my chain and clean the bike, but feeling rather lazy. Maybe mañana.
(bad joke alert!!)... Speaking of mañana, what do you call a cyclist this month who is overdue for a shower??
...the STINKO de Mayo.
I really need to change my chain and clean the bike, but feeling rather lazy. Maybe mañana.
(bad joke alert!!)... Speaking of mañana, what do you call a cyclist this month who is overdue for a shower??
...the STINKO de Mayo.
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05-05-14, 02:14 AM
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This actually brings up a personal subject I would very much like to hear the opinions of fellow addicts incorporated.
As you all know I am 60 and had my right hip replaced 5 years ago. My orthopod says my left hip is shot and needs replaced. The pain has been quite severe , at times causing my leg to give out at times almost causing a fall. I have been riding and like many of you, have difficulty making any ride an easy ride. The odd thing is that I'm pain free 2o minutes into the ride but later suffer from the effort. The doc says any time I want it done is good, that I pass muster, and until I get it done, ride as far and hard as I choose to. He also advised to put it off until I really need it due to my relative youth, likely longevity and future need for replacements.
This past week I have done no riding due to work and found my legs actually feeling much better with little to no pain.
Thus the question- get it done now so I can get back to riding or give up riding for a couple of years until symptoms require it in the future.
What would YOU do?
As you all know I am 60 and had my right hip replaced 5 years ago. My orthopod says my left hip is shot and needs replaced. The pain has been quite severe , at times causing my leg to give out at times almost causing a fall. I have been riding and like many of you, have difficulty making any ride an easy ride. The odd thing is that I'm pain free 2o minutes into the ride but later suffer from the effort. The doc says any time I want it done is good, that I pass muster, and until I get it done, ride as far and hard as I choose to. He also advised to put it off until I really need it due to my relative youth, likely longevity and future need for replacements.
This past week I have done no riding due to work and found my legs actually feeling much better with little to no pain.
Thus the question- get it done now so I can get back to riding or give up riding for a couple of years until symptoms require it in the future.
What would YOU do?
How are you just walking around?
05-05-14, 06:10 AM
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The bike is fine, degenerative arthritis is the problem. My left hip is essentially shot, bone on bone with very little cartilage left. There is no question as to what is causing the pain nor is there a question of what to do about it. The question is when.
05-05-14, 06:16 AM
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This actually brings up a personal subject I would very much like to hear the opinions of fellow addicts incorporated.
As you all know I am 60 and had my right hip replaced 5 years ago. My orthopod says my left hip is shot and needs replaced. The pain has been quite severe , at times causing my leg to give out at times almost causing a fall. I have been riding and like many of you, have difficulty making any ride an easy ride. The odd thing is that I'm pain free 2o minutes into the ride but later suffer from the effort. The doc says any time I want it done is good, that I pass muster, and until I get it done, ride as far and hard as I choose to. He also advised to put it off until I really need it due to my relative youth, likely longevity and future need for replacements.
This past week I have done no riding due to work and found my legs actually feeling much better with little to no pain.
Thus the question- get it done now so I can get back to riding or give up riding for a couple of years until symptoms require it in the future.
What would YOU do?
As you all know I am 60 and had my right hip replaced 5 years ago. My orthopod says my left hip is shot and needs replaced. The pain has been quite severe , at times causing my leg to give out at times almost causing a fall. I have been riding and like many of you, have difficulty making any ride an easy ride. The odd thing is that I'm pain free 2o minutes into the ride but later suffer from the effort. The doc says any time I want it done is good, that I pass muster, and until I get it done, ride as far and hard as I choose to. He also advised to put it off until I really need it due to my relative youth, likely longevity and future need for replacements.
This past week I have done no riding due to work and found my legs actually feeling much better with little to no pain.
Thus the question- get it done now so I can get back to riding or give up riding for a couple of years until symptoms require it in the future.
What would YOU do?
05-05-14, 06:43 AM
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There is a saying, motion is the lotion. For many arthritis suffers movement can both lessen the pain but result in post effort pain that is worse. For instance, this week no riding and my kegs feel substantially better. Yesterday hauling mulch up a small hill and by night I could hardly walk. Went for light ride and 20-30 minutes in the pain is gone- endorphines? Later in evening hip again feeling much worse. You may also have heard the old wives tale that an approaching low pressure front can aggravate pain. I used to think this quite silly but I am not so sure now.
05-05-14, 07:03 AM
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A bit of PSA from my personal experience as many older riders may be in similar situation.
My riding has been hindered by GI problems for a few years now and I could never get to the bottom of it. My latest line of enquiry is side effect from blood pressure meds. I take calcium channel blockers and this stops arteries constricting hence lowering blood pressure.
Unfortunately, I read that this anti-constriction of smooth muscle affect not just blood vessels but GI tracts and air passages too. This could be why my digestion is so impaired that I get trapped wind. The intestines just are not contracting strong enough or frequently enough to move things on. Also the lower oesophageal sphincter that shuts off the stomach becomes weak since it too is a muscle whose constriction is weakened by the drug. This may be why I get such bad GERD.
Today I didn't take my BP med and my digestive tract is moving much better and pains have gone away. Maybe this is finally the cause.
My riding has been hindered by GI problems for a few years now and I could never get to the bottom of it. My latest line of enquiry is side effect from blood pressure meds. I take calcium channel blockers and this stops arteries constricting hence lowering blood pressure.
Unfortunately, I read that this anti-constriction of smooth muscle affect not just blood vessels but GI tracts and air passages too. This could be why my digestion is so impaired that I get trapped wind. The intestines just are not contracting strong enough or frequently enough to move things on. Also the lower oesophageal sphincter that shuts off the stomach becomes weak since it too is a muscle whose constriction is weakened by the drug. This may be why I get such bad GERD.
Today I didn't take my BP med and my digestive tract is moving much better and pains have gone away. Maybe this is finally the cause.
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05-05-14, 07:10 AM
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This actually brings up a personal subject I would very much like to hear the opinions of fellow addicts incorporated.
As you all know I am 60 and had my right hip replaced 5 years ago. My orthopod says my left hip is shot and needs replaced. The pain has been quite severe , at times causing my leg to give out at times almost causing a fall. I have been riding and like many of you, have difficulty making any ride an easy ride. The odd thing is that I'm pain free 2o minutes into the ride but later suffer from the effort. The doc says any time I want it done is good, that I pass muster, and until I get it done, ride as far and hard as I choose to. He also advised to put it off until I really need it due to my relative youth, likely longevity and future need for replacements.
This past week I have done no riding due to work and found my legs actually feeling much better with little to no pain.
Thus the question- get it done now so I can get back to riding or give up riding for a couple of years until symptoms require it in the future.
What would YOU do?
As you all know I am 60 and had my right hip replaced 5 years ago. My orthopod says my left hip is shot and needs replaced. The pain has been quite severe , at times causing my leg to give out at times almost causing a fall. I have been riding and like many of you, have difficulty making any ride an easy ride. The odd thing is that I'm pain free 2o minutes into the ride but later suffer from the effort. The doc says any time I want it done is good, that I pass muster, and until I get it done, ride as far and hard as I choose to. He also advised to put it off until I really need it due to my relative youth, likely longevity and future need for replacements.
This past week I have done no riding due to work and found my legs actually feeling much better with little to no pain.
Thus the question- get it done now so I can get back to riding or give up riding for a couple of years until symptoms require it in the future.
What would YOU do?
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05-05-14, 07:21 AM
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Stoney, my personal opinion is that you should address it now. Get pain free as soon as possible. My Dad suffered with constant pain for 2 years, and went through several bad diagnosis (focusing on back) before it was finally specified as hip. The pain went away immediately once corrected. But those years of suffering took a huge toll on his personality, and outlook, and quality of life during that period. He is now several years after the surgery, and though pain free, is a changed man from the toll.
I understand the concern of longevity of the replacement, but (not to be a downer), there is no guarantee any of us will survive another 20 years. It is not worth it to suffer now to avoid suffering later, when later isn't a guarantee. And this has nothing to do with whether you can ride or not. It has to do with dealing with pain, either intermittently or constantly, as a takes a constant toll on our outlook.
I understand the concern of longevity of the replacement, but (not to be a downer), there is no guarantee any of us will survive another 20 years. It is not worth it to suffer now to avoid suffering later, when later isn't a guarantee. And this has nothing to do with whether you can ride or not. It has to do with dealing with pain, either intermittently or constantly, as a takes a constant toll on our outlook.
05-05-14, 07:25 AM
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a bird in the hand is worth more than a hip in the future.
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05-05-14, 07:31 AM
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The 20 min. pain thing is very typical of arthritis. Motion can loosen things up, but, over a long time swelling can make it worse with a time delay. It takes time for the swelling to happen.
Stretch on the bike after a little warm up. Warm up gently. As you ride stretch a little once in a while. I do this for my knees and hips. The right stretches loosen the pressure on the joints. Stopping to stretch at 20 min. can be a big help too. That really helps me. More spinning in an easy gear, less pressure on the legs.
My body works better with two days off between rides, the swelling goes down. This is the main reason I do long rides. Ride all day, feel good, two days off, ready to start over. Try this schedule.
You probably know about nsaid's taken on a steady schedule.
One big question, what is the expected life of the new joint? What about the one already done?
Stretch on the bike after a little warm up. Warm up gently. As you ride stretch a little once in a while. I do this for my knees and hips. The right stretches loosen the pressure on the joints. Stopping to stretch at 20 min. can be a big help too. That really helps me. More spinning in an easy gear, less pressure on the legs.
My body works better with two days off between rides, the swelling goes down. This is the main reason I do long rides. Ride all day, feel good, two days off, ready to start over. Try this schedule.
You probably know about nsaid's taken on a steady schedule.
One big question, what is the expected life of the new joint? What about the one already done?
05-05-14, 08:02 AM
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@coasting I briefly took a calcium channel blocker for BP myself. I discontinued it because I just didn't feel my mild hypertension warranted a drug that was constraining my heart in any way. I was very uncomfortable with that therapy, (plus I'm very leery of Big Pharm's influence in medicine.) Just prior to that I had been on a diuretic for a good while but became concerned that it was contributing to nightly leg cramps. I switched back to the diuretic (HCTZ), lesser of two evils.
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05-05-14, 08:12 AM
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+1 for getting it taken care of sooner rather than later, Stoney.
05-05-14, 08:20 AM
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Pic from a little walkaround with the boy and wife yesterday. It was selected for Flickr Explore (which is kind of like a daily best-of) and has received thousands of views and is quickly approaching 100 favorites (the most any other photo of mine has is 7 or so - I don't aggressively share). It's funny that I stopped caring about being selected (or not) for Explore years ago and then they choose a decent but random snapshot.
05-05-14, 08:24 AM
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Going with the peanut gallery here and say get it taken care of sooner than later.
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05-05-14, 08:38 AM
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Stoney, my personal opinion is that you should address it now. Get pain free as soon as possible. My Dad suffered with constant pain for 2 years, and went through several bad diagnosis (focusing on back) before it was finally specified as hip. The pain went away immediately once corrected. But those years of suffering took a huge toll on his personality, and outlook, and quality of life during that period. He is now several years after the surgery, and though pain free, is a changed man from the toll.
I understand the concern of longevity of the replacement, but (not to be a downer), there is no guarantee any of us will survive another 20 years. It is not worth it to suffer now to avoid suffering later, when later isn't a guarantee. And this has nothing to do with whether you can ride or not. It has to do with dealing with pain, either intermittently or constantly, as a takes a constant toll on our outlook.
I understand the concern of longevity of the replacement, but (not to be a downer), there is no guarantee any of us will survive another 20 years. It is not worth it to suffer now to avoid suffering later, when later isn't a guarantee. And this has nothing to do with whether you can ride or not. It has to do with dealing with pain, either intermittently or constantly, as a takes a constant toll on our outlook.
05-05-14, 08:39 AM
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@coasting I briefly took a calcium channel blocker for BP myself. I discontinued it because I just didn't feel my mild hypertension warranted a drug that was constraining my heart in any way. I was very uncomfortable with that therapy, (plus I'm very leery of Big Pharm's influence in medicine.) Just prior to that I had been on a diuretic for a good while but became concerned that it was contributing to nightly leg cramps. I switched back to the diuretic (HCTZ), lesser of two evils.
i am very frustrated with docs' attitude to risk. I have excellent cholesterol (138 and good ldl/hdl) but i am on a cholesterol drug, i have reasonable bp and i am on bp drugs. the doc refuses to take me off even though if i went to him as a new patient he would not put me on the drugs...130/70 is the high end and often i am 120 /60 or lower.
I also read on the drugs info page on the pharma companies website that ccb also weakens the heart contraction...that is supposed to take the strain off it but that's so dumb when there is no heart failure. in fact, it might get interpreted as heart failure. drugs lead to more symptoms to more drugs and more side effects etc.
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05-05-14, 08:41 AM
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i am very frustrated with docs' attitude to risk. I have excellent cholesterol (138 and good ldl/hdl) but i am on a cholesterol drug, i have reasonable bp and i am on bp drugs. the doc refuses to take me off even though if i went to him as a new patient he would not put me on the drugs...130/70 is the high end and often i am 120 /60 or lower.
I also read on the drugs info page on the pharma companies website that ccb also weakens the heart contraction...that is supposed to take the strain off it but that's so dumb when there is no heart failure. in fact, it might get interpreted as heart failure. drugs lead to more symptoms to more drugs and more side effects etc.
I also read on the drugs info page on the pharma companies website that ccb also weakens the heart contraction...that is supposed to take the strain off it but that's so dumb when there is no heart failure. in fact, it might get interpreted as heart failure. drugs lead to more symptoms to more drugs and more side effects etc.
05-05-14, 08:42 AM
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05-05-14, 08:43 AM
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i could and i have and am doing it periodically to test for the effects. the rebound is frieghtening though, so i would suggest anyone coming off ccb to do it gradually.
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05-05-14, 08:44 AM
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Pic from a little walkaround with the boy and wife yesterday. It was selected for Flickr Explore (which is kind of like a daily best-of) and has received thousands of views and is quickly approaching 100 favorites (the most any other photo of mine has is 7 or so - I don't aggressively share). It's funny that I stopped caring about being selected (or not) for Explore years ago and then they choose a decent but random snapshot.
05-05-14, 08:45 AM
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05-05-14, 08:55 AM
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Pic from a little walkaround with the boy and wife yesterday. It was selected for Flickr Explore (which is kind of like a daily best-of) and has received thousands of views and is quickly approaching 100 favorites (the most any other photo of mine has is 7 or so - I don't aggressively share). It's funny that I stopped caring about being selected (or not) for Explore years ago and then they choose a decent but random snapshot.
nice.
are we getting back to posting bridge pics?
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