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07-28-14, 05:17 PM
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My wife and I have done a mini-reverse tri for the past couple of years. I think this year we're going to invite both of our girls to join us. That'll elicit the same smile from both of them. Trying to teach them a mentality of an active lifestyle. Hopefully that will keep them out of the C/A forum later in life.
07-28-14, 05:20 PM
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Important health information for @Velo Vol
5 Ways Sleeping Naked Can Benefit You | The Mind Unleashed
5 Ways Sleeping Naked Can Benefit You | The Mind Unleashed
Keeping your body or your bedroom at a temperature higher than 70˚F
Pretty sure you're in for an extra long sleep if your body is below 70F.
The cortisol levels issue is an interesting one, but I fail to see the link to clothing. I do not have a problem with belly fat.
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07-28-14, 05:59 PM
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Echo Lake campground was excellent. If you're looking for a spot to ride bikes and camp and enjoy the outdoors, it's as good as it gets. Fifteen miles from Idaho Springs, base of Mt Evans at 10,600ft, hiking trails across from most sites, fishing at Echo Lake, and a wonderful lodge with home made pie and buffalo chili across the street. We fished and watched the Mt Evans Hill Climb. That's a brutal bike race, by the way.
07-28-14, 06:00 PM
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Not a low blow to the winner, but the yellow jersey podium pic of this year TDF made my day. My wife actually pointed it out to me. 
07-28-14, 06:10 PM
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It always seems that way when it appears to confirm your preconceptions.
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07-28-14, 06:24 PM
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07-28-14, 06:33 PM
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Hey all- Dr. Pete is back, at least in the cycling is a ripoff thread.
07-28-14, 06:38 PM
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We did not talk about it very long. I keep bringing it up with him though and then immediately saying I'm not ready, so we never have much of a conversation. My impression is that he thinks all the crank and pedal-based power meters are over priced and not as accurate and/or reliable, I'm not sure which. I was thinking there was no point in having an extensive conversation about it before I was ready to leap because the technology would invariably change. He did admit though that once you pay for someone to install the Powertap, it's not as much of a bargain. But I had the impression that right now for someone like me, it's his opinion that the Powertap is the most practical recommendation, taking into account accuracy, reliability, and cost.
I told Jim about the guy I met on the train liking his Garmin Vector and his response was to totally pass on the Vector, it was totally no good, he didnt even want to talk about it. He was so exasperated by the very idea of the Vector, it was kind of funny. But I did talk to the guy on the train quite a long time about his, he is a racer, previously had a Powertap, now has multiple bikes. He felt like he gets great data from the Vector, that is is a great solution for him, because he only needed the one device for all his bikes.
For something like a power meter, I look at it as a one time expense. Its not as if cost doesn't matter, but if I'm generating data that is useful to me 5 days a week x say 46 weeks/yr x say 5 years, a $500 price differential for the whole package (meter + any installation costs) is only about 50 cents per ride. Not a deal breaker either way. I just know nothing about power meter training, so if I'm on the Madone once or twice a week, is it a big deal to have no power data for those rides? I suspect it would be, when I did my little test ride of the bike rack to carry my water the other day, I forgot my heart rate monitor. OMG. I was in a panic, almost went back home for it. Until I remembered I wasn't on any kind of training ride, it didn't matter what my heart rate was. I continued on but still felt a little uncomfortable to have a blank field on my Garmin display.
I told Jim about the guy I met on the train liking his Garmin Vector and his response was to totally pass on the Vector, it was totally no good, he didnt even want to talk about it. He was so exasperated by the very idea of the Vector, it was kind of funny. But I did talk to the guy on the train quite a long time about his, he is a racer, previously had a Powertap, now has multiple bikes. He felt like he gets great data from the Vector, that is is a great solution for him, because he only needed the one device for all his bikes.
For something like a power meter, I look at it as a one time expense. Its not as if cost doesn't matter, but if I'm generating data that is useful to me 5 days a week x say 46 weeks/yr x say 5 years, a $500 price differential for the whole package (meter + any installation costs) is only about 50 cents per ride. Not a deal breaker either way. I just know nothing about power meter training, so if I'm on the Madone once or twice a week, is it a big deal to have no power data for those rides? I suspect it would be, when I did my little test ride of the bike rack to carry my water the other day, I forgot my heart rate monitor. OMG. I was in a panic, almost went back home for it. Until I remembered I wasn't on any kind of training ride, it didn't matter what my heart rate was. I continued on but still felt a little uncomfortable to have a blank field on my Garmin display.
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07-28-14, 06:45 PM
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...Oh snap.
...you have now entered an area in which I actually have some expertise.
There are certain professions that routinely address situations which are, by their very nature,
less controllable and poorly predictable. While the one in which i was engaged makes a great
deal of noise about drilling, and planning for the most likely scenarios, it turns out that, IRL,
when something goes tits up in a very big way, all that drilling and preparedness can get you
marching down the wrong road if you are not very careful to stay loose, and observant.
People get killed all the time in the emergency business because they think the situation with
which they are confronted is the same as the one they prepared for, and it turns out it's not.
But those are events with a lot of things happening very quickly....not what you are talking about.
...you have now entered an area in which I actually have some expertise.
There are certain professions that routinely address situations which are, by their very nature,
less controllable and poorly predictable. While the one in which i was engaged makes a great
deal of noise about drilling, and planning for the most likely scenarios, it turns out that, IRL,
when something goes tits up in a very big way, all that drilling and preparedness can get you
marching down the wrong road if you are not very careful to stay loose, and observant.
People get killed all the time in the emergency business because they think the situation with
which they are confronted is the same as the one they prepared for, and it turns out it's not.
But those are events with a lot of things happening very quickly....not what you are talking about.
07-28-14, 06:45 PM
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From my Saturday ride. I saw this sign at my water refill stop and thought it was funny.
07-28-14, 06:51 PM
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I get both ways, be prepared but be ready to wing it as well.
07-28-14, 06:55 PM
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Been there, cycling, the wet cold seeping in and being unable to generate enough heat to conquer it, the shivers leading into uncontrollable shakes and a very real sense that death is around the corner. Be very careful of the rainy wet 30's.
07-28-14, 07:00 PM
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I make my living running factories and keeping key equipment functioning. Machines are incredibly predictable once you know what to watch and when to listen. People are just as easy to read as machines, once you leave the emotion part out. So your spouse will give all indications of what preventative maintenance they need, and even if they squeal under load, with proper care, you can get what you need.
07-28-14, 07:03 PM
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*I'm* not making this stuff up, and it appears to me, and any other objective reader, the author isn't either.
Listen, I'll be the first to admit I'm not objective. You couldn't GIVE me a CF bike, I'll take steel or Ti thankyouverymuch! But I didn't write the article, somebody else did, and it sounds pretty objective to me. What part is giving you guys so much problems? What part are we supposed to ignore, that on those rare occasions when it fails that it shatters without warning? Ok, I'll ignore that part, but can *you*? No skin off my shin, I don't ride them.
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07-28-14, 07:04 PM
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07-28-14, 07:05 PM
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I have a theory about that. You know those desktop gizmo's, the five hanging stainless steel balls? That's the human brain after 40. When the outside ball is pulled up and let go, it's momentum drives another ball out the opposite end. These balls are new facts or bits of information. Each new piece of info in drives another out. Balance is preserved.
