rpenmanparker 

What's your point?

Homebrew01

You forgot aliens...

Nachoman

That's why it's called a conspiracy, and not just a simple lie.

Homebrew01

RJM

Hitler rode a specialized.


and it was carbon.

Mike F

Godwin's law has been envocted. This thread can be closed

Jseis 

T'was the carbon fiber energy bar I tell ya sonny, the man can't bike and chew CF at the same time.

Eds0123

I am just a newbie around here. I don't know much. but; it makes me think. If those great professional grade CF frames made for racing at TdF break as a result of a collision with another bike on top of another car or another car going over it, what can I expect from a chinese made consumer grade, casual rider grade CF frame? On my weekend rides I go above 35mph regularly down a winding road. I don't know if I would be happy to see my expensive CF frame is broken and I can not get home if I crash there. Never mind my initial investment on the high tech frame.

Herbie53

Any of you guys know where Flight 370 is?

ping.

Mike F

My understanding was it was a Beoing 777 which has a carbon fiber reinforced wing.... coincidence? I think not

WhyFi

You make is sound as if these aren't extraordinary circumstances. Breakage from getting run over by a car should be pretty self-explanatory, and breaking while on the rack shouldn't raise any eyebrows either when you consider that it's tightly secured to the rack - where else is that energy supposed to go? Of course it's going to break. Both of these scenarios are far, far different than taking a spill and having the bike bounce off the deck.

halfspeed

If you crash hard enough to snap a modern CF frame, riding home is the least of your concerns.

Herbie53

Probably an eBay ChinaBoeing 777 knock off.

The truth is out there.

Carbonfiberboy 

As a newbie, you couldn't be expected to know that there's an ongoing joke-y battle between those who like and those who dislike carbon fiber bikes. No worries about riding a CF bike. I have over 50,000 miles on one and it's still perfect. The frame and fork that is. Everything else has been replaced at least once. And I beat the crap out of my bikes. They fall over, hit potholes when descending, sit out in the sun, get ridden in the rain, crash occasionally, just like every bike you had when you were a kid. Except that I maintain my bikes now and didn't know enough then to do so. I got scrape marks on all the aluminum crap in the corners: brifters, derailleur, pedals, QRs, etc. You ride a bike enough, hard enough, you're gonna go down.

Eds0123

oh I have crashed enough on my mountain biking days, It was almost every time the next morning that i knew i had hair fractured my arm, broken my ankle, I usually got more hurt going at slower speeds, going faster usually you are more lucky and you would slide a bit, slow down quiet a bit before coming to a stop specially going on asphalt smooth roads. It is how fast you come to stop.

I have seen other rider's broken forks at weld joints on trails. I have seen broken frames on my travels on other trails. These all looked like sub $100 wall-mart bikes, quiet different than a expensive professionally made bike made for a champion riding a grueling racing event at TdF. Just not a good PR image for the manufacturer or the technology. Again I don't know, I am a newbie here, this just does not give me a good warm fuzzy feeling that I can trust the frame and be rest assured that expensive CF frame won't fail me.

StanSeven

When it's finally found, I bet it was steel parts that rusted and failed

Homebrew01

Look at this scratch-and-dent Specialized I picked up on the cheap !

And the Bianchi doesn't look broken, therefore, Bianchis are stronger than Specialized

kc0bbq

I'm sure you can find a frame that weighs a reasonable amount that will never fail no matter what. Not sure what it will be made of, someone else will have to let us know.

I think good PR for the material is that picture of Cav getting his wheel tacoed in a sprint by having it run over and still being able to finish the stage despite the crease in the rim.

rpenmanparker 

There is no "no matter what." Run over by a car is always going to look like run over by a car. Don't buy what you can't afford to replace. That's all.

MikeyBoyAz

I thought 787 was the carbon fiber plane.

mud

After a close examination by a forensic expert it has been determined that AC was riding side saddle (look closely at the saddle position of the broken bike), while eating a power bar..........don't try this at home kids....

Never allow the facts to interfere with my beliefs............

531Aussie

Yeah, that'll buff right out. So, excuse my possible gullibility, but is this picture real? If so, how did it happen? Did it fall off the Tinkoff car onto the Belkin car?

And what does Contador say in this video?

Homebrew01

They said the frame broke when the roof racks of the 2 cars got tangled.
Probably a cell phone pic.

531Aussie

Thanks. I wonder how that would happen. Maybe the bikes got tangled coz they just about hang off the edge of the racks

I <3 Robots

It happened exactly the way it was explained. The road was narrow and the Saxo car tried to pass the Belkin car...Saxo car got too close...bikes got tangled up.