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Old 07-16-14, 10:39 AM
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He doesn't say a word about how the crash happened, he says he's going to Madrid to have his leg treated, and regrets having to quit at a moment when he was feeling good. But that's cycling, in a second you can lose months of training and effort. He hopes to be able to be at the Vuelta, but he's not sure.
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He's a cyclist, but I guess everyone in the U.S knows that
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Nobody is here for the facts...just for the sake of arguing or for one upping the other guy.
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Originally Posted by bbeasley
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Of course the above excludes people/entities that might know what happened.

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As usual, Al exposes the whole plot.


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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
I agree
not a good PR image for the technology or the manufacturer whatever the circumstances buddy, ... :-)
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The Asplosion Heard Around the World??**TdF Spoiler**

Hands down it was a driver of a team car fiddling with his joy stick, then a Thule Al roof rack failure started the whole mess.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
So you're saying that you DO expect bikes to come out unscathed in those conditions? Wow. Okay, I don't think that it's possible for me to explain things any more plainly, so I'll just leave you to your highly unrealistic expectations.
Hey bud, you missed reading some of the replies, my point was in response to the guy who claimed that cars were going opposite directions at maybe 30mph and the collision happened consequently at 60mph. I still have to see a car having forgot something and going opposite direction to pick something back up from the hotel, .... :-) ; just ridiculous, just like those initial explanations uttered by Specialized PR team. Not a good PR image for a professional bike being built for TdF and costing $20,000 USD guys, sorry, .... :-) Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
not a good PR image for the technology or the manufacturer whatever the circumstances buddy, ... :-)
So a bicycle should not get damaged when ripped off the roof by another car ?

Maybe the people who drive into their garages, forgetting they have a bike on the roof, should make a claim for a defective product.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...is the earth really just a hollow ferrous shell, the interior of which is populated by a dark race of dwarves manufacturing carbon composite products ?

Tell the truth, other than in the faked videos on Youtube, how many of you have actually seen a carbon fiber frame being made in person? Anybody ? Bueller ?
I have.

But I know you were kidding.
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Specialized will sue bustedcarbon.com for trademark infringement now.
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I wish I posted on page 1 of this thread. Specialized contacted me today about my use of the word "assplode"
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
So a bicycle should not get damaged when ripped off the roof by another car ?
well, I did not expect such a drastic failure of the frame in two spots, broken at two spots where supposed to be strongest joint than the rest of the frame, we are talking about a $20,000 USD frame built to perform at TdF, what should I expect from a mass produced regular consumer grade, casual rider grade made in china thing?, a tacoed tire, a bent fork, broken fork, broken bottle cages, etc OK, just not that drastic of a failure, sorry guys, just Not a good PR image for the manufacturer or the technology.
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Frames don't cost $20,000. I doubt his frame is much different than their regular production frames, except possibly custom geometry.

Any material frame attached to a rack, then getting forcibly yanked off, could expect to be damaged in some way.

The "Not a good PR image" is due to people making up stories about what happened. Not the company's fault.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
Frames don't cost $20,000.
I didn't come up with that figure, it is you guys in the biking industry spreading the information, funny it is the same color and paint pattern as the now Famous AC's bike, just take a look here ...

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Originally Posted by Eds0123
well, I did not expect such a drastic failure of the frame in two spots, broken at two spots where supposed to be strongest joint than the rest of the frame, we are talking about a $20,000 USD frame built to perform at TdF, what should I expect from a mass produced regular consumer grade, casual rider grade made in china thing?, a tacoed tire, a bent fork, broken fork, broken bottle cages, etc OK, just not that drastic of a failure, sorry guys, just Not a good PR image for the manufacturer or the technology.
The frameset costs about $3800. A more pedestrian carbon frame will be heavier and more overbuilt as it won't be engineered to run as close to the margin between low weight and strength.

Any frame of any material can be damaged if enough force is applied.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
I didn't come up with that figure, it is you guys in the biking industry spreading the information, funny it is the same color and paint pattern as the now Famous AC's bike, just take a look here ...

First Look: $20,000 Specialized S-Works McLaren Tarmac | Road Bike News, Reviews, and Photos
That's a whole bike, not just a frame. And it's $20,000 because it's a limited production bike to sell to people with a lot of money to impress their friends.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
Look at this scratch-and-dent Specialized I picked up on the cheap !

And the Bianchi doesn't look broken, therefore, Bianchis are stronger than Specialized

Looks like the bikes hooked bars as the Tinkoff car passed by the Belkin car. The frame broke because the bike was peeled off sideways from the rack. The Bianchi is probably not in great shape either.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
in response to the guy who claimed that cars were going opposite directions at maybe 30mph and the collision happened consequently at 60mph.
This is a myth. Vehicles colliding from opposite directions at similar speeds do not contain the energy of a single vehicle at twice the speed. Even though it is obvious in physics, there exists a pretty bad MythBusters episode on it, if that helps.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
well, I did not expect such a drastic failure of the frame in two spots, broken at two spots where supposed to be strongest joint than the rest of the frame, we are talking about a $20,000 USD frame built to perform at TdF, what should I expect from a mass produced regular consumer grade, casual rider grade made in china thing?, a tacoed tire, a bent fork, broken fork, broken bottle cages, etc OK, just not that drastic of a failure, sorry guys, just Not a good PR image for the manufacturer or the technology.
The bikes hooked bars and the Specialized was peeled off sideways from a rack. The frame broke because the front was being dragged backwards while the rear was immobilized. If a steel touring frame were on top of the car, I think the incident would have pulled the rack off the car entirely. Do you own a carbon bike? They are strong, but they'll still break if you hit them hard enough. If I were to guess, I'll bet the Belkin car was almost stopped and the DS of the Tinkoff team flew by him pushing 40mph. I've heard stories about how those guys drive during a race.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
This is a myth. Vehicles colliding from opposite directions at similar speeds do not contain the energy of a single vehicle at twice the speed. Even though it is obvious in physics, there exists a pretty bad MythBusters episode on it, if that helps.
Thank You, more to my point, you dont need a 60mph collision :-), tell this to the guy who proposed it originally, ... :-)
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
If I were to guess, I'll bet the Belkin car was almost stopped and the DS of the Tinkoff team flew by him pushing 40mph. I've heard stories about how those guys drive during a race.
I have to agree, for this to be plausible, for this to be the scenario, one car has to be stopped or stationary relative to the other, there wont be that hard a collision if both were going relatively the same speed same direction,
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I have.

But I know you were kidding.
...sure. Obviously, you have been silenced with either threats or money by those selfsame dark, evil dwarves. Wait, how tall are you ?
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01

Any material frame attached to a rack, then getting forcibly yanked off, could expect to be damaged in some way.
...so what was the rack made of ?
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