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Originally Posted by halfspeed
The frameset costs about $3800
what for? still "too beaucoup" for a bike frame, If I want to save weight and go just a bit faster uphills (and lets face it it it is only when going uphill or accelerating/decelerating that lower weight could help. Period.) I would lose a bit of weight or take less water or gear with me, there are lots of great Aluminum or steel frames available on craigslist too, ...
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Looks like Contador was PO'd because his Specialized carbon frame exploded beneath him so he threw it across the road and it hit the Belkin car.
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what for? still "too beaucoup" for a bike frame, If I want to save weight and go just a bit faster uphills (and lets face it it it is only when going uphill or accelerating/decelerating that lower weight could help. Period.) I would lose a bit of weight or take less water or gear with me, there are lots of great Aluminum or steel frames available on craigslist too, ...
What is your problem? These guys are already at minimum body fat (to the point of being unhealthy) and minimum water (they get their water in small bottles handed up from cars) and they carry no gear other than some food and a radio. What else is there to reduce weight other than the bike? You've already acknowledged that weight is something to be minimized going up hills... well, these are hill climbing cyclists, the Tour is a hill climbing race much of the time, and these are already the best physical athletes for the purpose. Why do you have a problem with how a frame breaks when it is peeled sideways off a bike rack?
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... there are lots of great Aluminum or steel frames available on craigslist too, ...
It always strikes me as funny when people compare retail price to resale price when arguing value. You all do know that those craigslist bikes were, at one time or another, bought at some sort of retail price, right?
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
what for? still "too beaucoup" for a bike frame, If I want to save weight and go just a bit faster uphills (and lets face it it it is only when going uphill or accelerating/decelerating that lower weight could help. Period.) I would lose a bit of weight or take less water or gear with me, there are lots of great Aluminum or steel frames available on craigslist too, ...
What a unique insight. Welcome to the 41, Eds0123, you will fit right in here.
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...certainly it is hilarious to discuss this in terms of the resale price of CF bikes.
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It always strikes me as funny when people compare retail price to resale price when arguing value. You all do know that those craigslist bikes were, at one time or another, bought at some sort of retail price, right?
No WAY.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...certainly it is hilarious to discuss this in terms of the resale price of CF bikes.
CF frames don't last long enough to resell. Duh.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
. Why do you have a problem with how a frame breaks when it is peeled sideways off a bike rack?
Few grams off a bike does not make an ordinary person, not talking about TdF athletes. a better rider or a better athlete, riding your bike every day for commuting to work and back and running errands. Sometime I see riders(more on early spring when people dust off their bike and come out for riding after few months of cold weather) with expensive bikes sometime on my weekend rides and they are surprised when i pass them going uphill on my bike 32 lbs heavy steel frame steel fork and 36 spoke heavy wheels carrying panniers and a trunk bag, :-) .... few grams off High tech CF Frames are more suitable for TdF athletes where fractions of microseconds are difference between wining or losing, ...
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
Few grams off a bike does not make an ordinary person, not talking about TdF athletes. a better rider or a better athlete, riding your bike every day for commuting to work and back and running errands. Sometime I see riders(more on early spring when people dust off their bike and come out for riding after few months of cold weather) with expensive bikes sometime on my weekend rides and they are surprised when i pass them going uphill on my bike 32 lbs heavy steel frame steel fork and 36 spoke heavy wheels carrying panniers and a trunk bag, :-) .... few grams off High tech CF Frames are more suitable for TdF athletes where fractions of microseconds are difference between wining or losing, ...
Not terribly grammatical... not sure what you are actually saying. Isn't this thread about a Tour de France race event? I am sorry you cannot appreciate a modern, carbon bike, but happy for you that you can pass some people on a 32lb steel bike with panniers.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
not sure what you are actually saying
Just trying to say that i did not think i would ever need a CF bike, more so after seeing the $20,000 bike being ripped apart like that at TdF. I guess that might make me a cheapo but that is fine with me, I don't need, supposedly the best and greatest racing bike, I am not participating in TdF, ...
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Originally Posted by rjones28
CF frames don't last long enough to resell. Duh.
...it is most certainly the perfect business model. #genius
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I haven’t read the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned this accident happened while AC was trying to eat? Go back a couple of years ago…he eats steak and gets busted for doping. This year he eats a snack and crashes his bike. Connect the dots people, there’s your conspiracy.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
Just trying to say that i did not think i would ever need a CF bike, more so after seeing the $20,000 bike being ripped apart like that at TdF. I guess that might make me a cheapo but that is fine with me, I don't need, supposedly the best and greatest racing bike, I am not participating in TdF, ...
Good for you. Excellent. Now then, why are you making this comment in this thread? Obviously a competitive athlete does not have the same requirements as you do.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
what for? still "too beaucoup" for a bike frame, If I want to save weight and go just a bit faster uphills (and lets face it it it is only when going uphill or accelerating/decelerating that lower weight could help. Period.) I would lose a bit of weight or take less water or gear with me, there are lots of great Aluminum or steel frames available on craigslist too, ...
I guess the pros don't agee with you.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
... but that is fine with me, I don't need, supposedly the best and greatest racing bike, I am not participating in TdF, ...
...you are now posting in the Road forum (formerly the 41tm). By definition you have joined an elite group of cyclists,
for whom no sacrifice is too great in the pursuit of weight savings and number of cogs in your gear cluster.

Welcome aboard, just hang your hat and coat over in the corner there, stow your sanity in the locker provided, and let's start talkin' Di2.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
Just trying to say that i did not think i would ever need a CF bike, more so after seeing the $20,000 bike being ripped apart like that at TdF. I guess that might make me a cheapo but that is fine with me, I don't need, supposedly the best and greatest racing bike, I am not participating in TdF, ...
You don't seem to be a cheapo. You list 3 bikes in your profile. Clearly, one bike is all anyone would ever need.
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I haven’t read the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned this accident happened while AC was trying to eat? Go back a couple of years ago…he eats steak and gets busted for doping. This year he eats a snack and crashes his bike. Connect the dots people, there’s your conspiracy.
....................it's so obvious now that you've pointed to it. I feel foolish.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...you are now posting in the Road forum (formerly the 41tm). By definition you have joined an elite group of cyclists
opps was not my intention at all, originally came here to learn more about what had happened and what more else anyone else knew,
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Originally Posted by bikecrate
I haven’t read the whole thread, but has anyone mentioned this accident happened while AC was trying to eat? Go back a couple of years ago…he eats steak and gets busted for doping. This year he eats a snack and crashes his bike. Connect the dots people, there’s your conspiracy.
And if he ate less, he wouldn't need a lightweight bike that cracks
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
....................it's so obvious now that you've pointed to it. I feel foolish.
That's how a successful conspiracy works. It's always so obvious you'd never believe it.
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You don't seem to be a cheapo. You list 3 bikes in your profile. Clearly, one bike is all anyone would ever need.
He is just more practical than most of the freds who frequent this forum....not a cheapo.
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What a unique insight. Welcome to the 41, Eds0123, you will fit right in here.
Thanks, I didn't know. This is very funny, I just came here to find out what has happened then I couldn't sit quiet, sorry, ... :-)
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He is just more practical than most of the freds who frequent this forum....not a cheapo.
Is he? If two people are practicing different activities, which one is to say what is "practical" for the other?
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He is just more practical than most of the freds who frequent this forum....not a cheapo.
Speaking of ridiculous expenditures:


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