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Old 08-10-14, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
I've seen it several times and lines come back to me in odd moments. "You're not wrong, Walter. You're just an *sshole."

One of my favorite exchanges is:
"Are these the Nazis, Walter?"
"No, Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of."

And, of course, my favorite scene is the funeral. "Everything's a ******** travesty with you, man."

One of my top five, because there are so many quotable moments is "Planes, Trains, and Automobiles". The chemistry is so perfect, too.
Yep.
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Originally Posted by Ramona_W
I ended up with three days off in a row this week. It's the first time I've had back to back days off in several months and I last had back to back to back days off in May and never again. I'm counting on two days of some kind of fun and the third day I have an appointment with a dermatologist to see whether or not I'm continuing the fine family tradition of skin cancer. If I have it, I certainly earned it. Someone who was naturally blonde as a child has no business trying to get a tan using baby oil or mayonnaise or lying on aluminium foil or sunbathing topless next to the Mediterranean in the afternoon or poorly applying sunscreen when visiting a clothing optional beach. But I was young and dumb or younger and dumber maybe and wanted to be like the girls in the Eagles' songs and the Beach Boys' songs which I wouldn't have been even if I did finally tan rather than burn. Who knows... This may turn out to be nothing or the first in a series of nothings and I'll still get away with all that foolish behavior.
Let's go back a bit and discuss the sunbathing topless and nude beach experiences. I think I speak for many when I say more information required.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I'm really glad you were able to get out in front of the melanoma. The question is how long was it since your previous dermatologic exam until you saw the dermatologist for the melanoma. Just interested.
....try never.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
Let's go back a bit and discuss the sunbathing topless and nude beach experiences.
I think I speak for many when I say more information required.
...worthless without pictures.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
One of the more interesting experiences of the weekend was eating chilli chocolate. I bought the mild version. We started eating it as normal, and thought, "Hmmmm... not too much happening here". Then a warm glow started inside our mouths and down the backs of our throats.

We tried another bit tonight when we got home. This was after having a few bits of other normal chocolate. For some reason, the warm glow was more intense this second time around!
One of the local chocolatiers says that their truffles with chili pepper in them are usually either the top-seller or runner-up every year. One of my more interesting chocolate experiences was purchased in Monterey but produced in Gilroy. It was essentially a Reese's peanut butter cup with a clove of garlic in the middle.

Dagoba Chocolates has a lot of interesting flavors and was started locally before Hershey bought them in 2006. (The lemon ginger is surprisingly good.) I met the founder, who called himself a "chocolate alchemist", several years before that. He was very charming and hello? chocolate? but flat out said he thought baseball was boring so that was a no-go. Plus, I make it a policy never to date someone who has the same first name as one of my ex-husbands.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
If you see a dermatologist regularly, skin cancer should not become a problem. Not saying you won't get it, but it should be able to be controlled by surgical removal. Pre-cancerous lesions can be usually be taken off with liquid nitrogen with no recurrence, at least not in exactly the same location. Folks who die from skin cancer complications are those who refuse to attend to it regularly. My mother chased it around for decades, but it was never a serious problem. Every time I see the dermatologist, she freezes three or four rough spots. Only once so far has a lesion developed far enough that it had to be surgically removed. I see my dermatologist every six months.
This is a remarkably ignorant post.
Skin cancer is a problem and can be missed with lethal consequences, even by decent dermatologists.
Restrain yourself.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
....try never.
Sorry, not trying to be a pr**k about it. It doesn't have to be like that. Vigilance is key.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Yes, you are right, but the opposite is true as well. Actually there are many variants. I like the old bearded dude in auto tire soled sandals and cargo shorts on a rusty 1960s Schwinn Varsity who beats the snot out of you on a tough climb. Now that is Fred.
I think it was definitively proven earlier that Liz Hatch is not a Fred uh Frieda uh Wilma. #whatever
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...that was, apparently, the unfortunate Mr Hoffman's final movie prior to his death.
Stuff like that always creeps me out, and it was years before i watched that Batman movie with Heath Ledger.
I believe "Wagons East!" was John Candy's last film and he looks like it. "Street Fighter" was Raul Julia's last film and what a stinker that was.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
This is a remarkably ignorant post.
Skin cancer is a problem and can be missed with lethal consequences, even by decent dermatologists.
Restrain yourself.
No it actually is not ignorant. What could you properly tell someone different from or opposite to what I said? Don't see a dermatologist regularly? There are no pre-cancerous stages of lesions that can be detected, so there is no reason to have yourself examined and problems attended to when they are minor? If you ever do have a skin cancer problem, you are screwed, so why bother taking care of it? None of that makes any sense.

I can't understand your position. Are you saying that folks should not have regular dermatologic exams? Was I stepping outside my expertise by passing judgment on particular lesions and stating an opinion about what was a problem and what was not? (No, I did no such thing and would never propose to do so.) Is it wrong to encourage friends to see a dermatologist by using one's own positive experiences as support against their concerns? Do you have better advice about how to stay ahead of skin diseases of any kind besides regular examinations by a competent specialist? How can advice to be vigilant be wrong? If one is giving the right advice, what does it matter who he is?

Here is a web site advising folks about early detection of skin cancer: Skin Examinations

Tell me how my advice differs substantially from the information on that site except that I opted to be more cautious and omit the recommendation for self-examination in favor of professional examination. That might be more costly than some feel they can afford, but it is not bad advice. Of course one might assume that self examination is always a first step in any program of medical care and need not even be mentioned.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
The silence is the primary reason I ride the SS so much.
I'm currently reading "The Unwanted Noise of Everything We Want". My Soc major daughter recommended it to me after I complained about the store's Muzak intruding into my assembly area and how sometimes other people's music and noise seems to almost be physically encroaching on my personal bubble. (In turn, I suggested Oliver Sack's book "Musicophilia".) Interesting how some of us are sensitive to these sounds and other people block them out. Starbucks at midday is so amazingly loud with music and people talking and the grinder and blender and steamers that I've often wondered aloud whether OSHA is aware of the noise levels baristas are exposed to on a daily basis. LoP doesn't really seem to notice and isn't bothered by it.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
Seeds, like there's really a decision here, seedless obviously.
But then you can't spit them at your cousins.
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One could read that in so many different ways. Personally I prefer my balls private.

No actual video. Sorry.
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...I think the whole televangelist thing is an even sweeter gig than stealing bikes.
Zero downside in terms of jail time, but huge paydays until it finally blows up.
I was just wondering a few days ago what had ever become of Jessica Hahn. The unsurprising answer is "Nothing".
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This is a remarkably ignorant post.
Skin cancer is a problem and can be missed with lethal consequences, even by decent dermatologists.
Restrain yourself.
Killed my Dad. Melanoma in his mid 80s subsequently went metastatic and became a lethal spinal tumor about 4 years later. Melanoma kills an awful lot of people every day.
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Sorry, not trying to be a pr**k about it. It doesn't have to be like that. Vigilance is key.
...I don't think you understand. I'd been to see a dermatologist about a year prior, who had looked
at the thing, said it looked fine to him, and basically done nothing.......zip, nada.

So I'm calling that a "not a dermitalogical exam" due to practitioner incompetence or general lack of interest.

He died mysteriously about a year and a half ago, and was kinda strange anyway.
They sent me a letter because i was a "former patient".

He and the guy I now see (who actually did the biopsy and Dx) were the only two dermatologists
I could access with my insurance here...which is supposed to be decent insurance.



His waiting room was furnished with Victorian antiques. I hope he is in some similarly furnished circle in hell.

If you have no history, family or otherwise, of any sort of skin cancer, it is entirely possible to go
to visit a board certified dermatologist and still die of cancer.......not to be a prick about it.
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
This is a remarkably ignorant post.
Skin cancer is a problem and can be missed with lethal consequences, even by decent dermatologists.
Restrain yourself.

...sorry, I missed that one. ^^^what he said ^^^^
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Ignorant point #1)-"If you see a dermatologist regularly, skin cancer should not become a problem".-As seen in 3 alarms case, the subtly of melanoma leads to misdiagnosis regularly and with lethal results. To trivialize the disease by saying seeing the doctor is enough is alarming.Ignorant statement 2)-"Not saying you won't get it, but it should be able to be controlled by surgical removal." -You're talking as if basal cell, squamous cell and melanoma are all the same thing. Indeed they are all skin cancers and that is where the similarity ends. Early surgical removal is not a guarantee for success. Many a patient have I had the "it's back talk " with on just this subject with devastating outcomes. Ignorant statement #3)-"Pre-cancerous lesions can be usually be taken off with liquid nitrogen with no recurrence, at least not in exactly the same location." Only one of the premalignant varieties can be frozen off. There is no freezing off pre melanoma or basal cell cancer. Oh, and if it recurs in a different location then1) it's not pre cancer but rather cancer and 2) being in a different location means it has metastasized which is not a good thing. Ignorant statement #4)-"Folks who die from skin cancer complications are those who refuse to attend to it regularly." You know, forget it, this is so staggeringly stupid and insensitive that it does not deserve a comment .
I could go on but I won't waste my effort. It's clear you have a brain but you're the type of smart guy that's really just an idiot. Why? Because you think your intelligence in one area confers expertise and intelligence in another. It does not and in the case medical issues you just cause harm. Do BF a favor , at least here in addiction, and just shut the hell up. You're neither as cleaver nor as smart as you think you are.

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Let's go back a bit and discuss the sunbathing topless and nude beach experiences. I think I speak for many when I say more information required.
Agreed. Is this when her boobs started the talking trick?
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But then you can't spit them at your cousins.
Or pinching them so they pop out- I do love to do that.
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Agreed. Is this when her boobs started the talking trick?
There is only one, well maybe two, who can tell us and silence has been their answer.
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One of the local chocolatiers says that their truffles with chili pepper in them are usually either the top-seller or runner-up every year. One of my more interesting chocolate experiences was purchased in Monterey but produced in Gilroy. It was essentially a Reese's peanut butter cup with a clove of garlic in the middle.

Dagoba Chocolates has a lot of interesting flavors and was started locally before Hershey bought them in 2006. (The lemon ginger is surprisingly good.) I met the founder, who called himself a "chocolate alchemist", several years before that. He was very charming and hello? chocolate? but flat out said he thought baseball was boring so that was a no-go. Plus, I make it a policy never to date someone who has the same first name as one of my ex-husbands.
I am not sure about garlic and chocolate. But then, I wasn't sure about chilli, either.

The most interesting part of the chocolate festival for me was a presentation by a science teacher on tempering chocolate when it is melted. I never knew that the cocoa butter molecules had such an influence on how the chocolate finished up. Plus, it takes properly tempered chocolate just seven minutes to set, instead of over an hour if not tempered.
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...sorry, I missed that one. ^^^what he said ^^^^
It's all above and all below.
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...I don't think you understand. I'd been to see a dermatologist about a year prior, who had looked
at the thing, said it looked fine to him, and basically done nothing.......zip, nada.

So I'm calling that a "not a dermitalogical exam" due to practitioner incompetence or general lack of interest.

He died mysteriously about a year and a half ago, and was kinda strange anyway.
They sent me a letter because i was a "former patient".

He and the guy I now see (who actually did the biopsy and Dx) were the only two dermatologists
I could access with my insurance here...which is supposed to be decent insurance.



His waiting room was furnished with Victorian antiques. I hope he is in some similarly furnished circle in hell.

If you have no history, family or otherwise, of any sort of skin cancer, it is entirely possible to go
to visit a board certified dermatologist and still die of cancer.......not to be a prick about it.
True that and pretty much any other speciality. Most are good, some are truly excellent, and some, well let's just say you are lucky if you never cross paths.
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I was just wondering a few days ago what had ever become of Jessica Hahn. The unsurprising answer is "Nothing".
Her fake boobs no longer in demand, her sexual history with JB tame by even HBO standards now. You know you're done when Howard Stern refuses to see you.
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