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Old 12-05-14, 03:58 PM
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Has anyone brought up how un-aero the GoPro is? They should be left to MTBers.

Contour is much more roadieable.

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Originally Posted by motorthings
As a matter of fact, yes. The judges don't score you highly when you misrepresent your opponent's positions.
Understanding differing opinions and correctly representing them are two very different things. Luckily I am highly skilled at both.

Hey, I'm just playing with you. Have been for quite a while. Photograph your rides to your heart's content. I shall say no more about it.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
It's a deal. And you will accept that some people think it's bizarre, right?
Sure! As long as they don't bash what my opinion is.

No, I don't have 4 running at all times. I have 1. Rear facing. I feel like whatever is in front of me I have more control over. Even in left hook situations. I'm young and have fairly good reflexes. Have avoided plenty (all) possible front collisions with motorized vehicles. Left and right views aren't necessary imo, as for the most part vehicle traffic runs with you for the most part, besides intersections. And I've lived in towns ranging from city size, to small town size.
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You are way too deep for me.... and I wouldn't consider strap on a GoPro and hit record as art.
Who does this? Usually the art is in the video editing, which is the reason to record in the first place.
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How about after an hour of AfterEffects goofing and sourcing just the right indie rock soundtrack? Is it art then?

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Do you get it now?


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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
...cycling video is about the most boring video I've ever seen
Second only to fishing video, specifically steelhead fishing video.
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Originally Posted by calamarichris
I don't think it's vain (okay, maybe a little) or foolish to record these moments. Just turn the camera on and resume enjoyment.
I had a debilitating injury 8 years ago and it then seemed my bicycling days (pretty much my life) were over. I went looking through my photos and found precious little.
Someday we're all going to be too old to do this anymore. Nothing wrong with trying to capture and preserve a little of our present joy. The faintest ink is better than the sharpest memory.
This is exactly what it's about for me. I use my gopro for special rides and I just hit record then let it run until the battery dies. Later with a little editing I get a very nice production that doesn't include hours of asphalt and heavy breathing. As I get older I realize how fleeting memories are. Here is my latest video of The 13th annual Tour de Gainesville . It's an Urban/trail/road 75 mile ride in gainesville fl. I'm 58 and each year it's more difficult for me to complete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWNVbqp6quM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Understanding differing opinions and correctly representing them are two very different things. Luckily I am highly skilled at both.

Hey, I'm just playing with you. Have been for quite a while. Photograph your rides to your heart's content. I shall say no more about it.

go ride your silly looking yellow bike.
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I don't get it either, but I also don't get everybody constantly documenting their lives through their smartphones and other gadgets. Just because you didn't take a picture or record an event doesn't mean you weren't there. The one that really gets me is when people watch a music concert "through" their phone. Makes me wonder if they've ever really enjoyed the concert experience firsthand! The GoPro thing seems to be an extension if this mindset.
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Originally Posted by bt
go ride your silly looking yellow bike.
Damn rain.

I think you are just jealous of me having the yellow bike. It is certainly understandable. Hey, if you really like the yellow bike so much, I could provide you the information to build one for yourself. Or maybe puce or cerise or how about teal. So many colors, so few bikes. Let me know.
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Isn't the whole point recording an approaching bicyclist who doesn't wave back?
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Originally Posted by SalsaShark
I don't get it either, but I also don't get everybody constantly documenting their lives through their smartphones and other gadgets. Just because you didn't take a picture or record an event doesn't mean you weren't there. The one that really gets me is when people watch a music concert "through" their phone. Makes me wonder if they've ever really enjoyed the concert experience firsthand! The GoPro thing seems to be an extension if this mindset.
What I don't get is that a number of people in this thread (incl. the commenter above) seem to think that just because someone hit the 'start recording' button on their GoPro before getting on their bike that it somehow diminishes from their enjoyment or experience of the ride. Don't see how it has any effect on that whatsoever.

But in the unfortunate (and unlikely) event of a crash having a video record might prove to be very useful. And more likely are the times when one might want to review something interesting that happened on a ride. But most of the people I know who record videos on their rides just let the camera record over the overwhelming majority of their rides without ever taking a look at them - the camera is there for the few times when it might be useful or interesting.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Do you have to wear 4 go pros to capture info on all sides? Serious question. I mean how do you know which direction the car will be coming from?
To me this is the most important post in this thread. Sure you can mount a forward facing camera on your bike, but when you get hit from behind what are the odds that camera lens is going to be pointing in the right direction to get a positive ID on a vehicle that hits you? So to me, a forward facing camera would only help corroborate if you got cut-off. You'd need side And rear facing cameras if you really wanted to be sure.

And I personally don't take many pictures or videos. I'm more into taking in every moment life gives me in its entirety. I don't go to concerts, professional sports games, watch fireworks, or pay good money and spend valuable time to experience such events through a camera lens.
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I use my gopros on club rides set to 30 second interval photography It's not much different than taking snapshots on any other occassion when you get together with people and have a good time.
On special occasions I definitely want to relive what I experienced, and usually am too pre-occupied during the ride to enjoy the scenery and landscape, like on this summer's la Marmotte
I know the people I ride with enjoy reliving the experience as much as I do...
I think the mistake most people make is pointing the camera forward and taking pictures of the backside of people, instead of pointing backwards and capturing their faces.
And then you have those occassions where something dramatic happens and you get a second chance to see and analyze what happened. Did I do something wrong?

On the other hand I have a hard time deciding which is my favorite hobby, photography or cycling, GoPro lets me combine them. There are a lot of people who just aren't interested in photography, or art, or classical music, or bicycling for that matter. Their loss...

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Originally Posted by spectastic
Completely different result when pointing the camera backwards instead of forwards. Why do most people continue filming the backside of people? How many people photograph their friends from the back when they get together?
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i appreciate the ride videos folk who have cameras kindly share with the public. i like seeing other people's rides.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I was being very serious!

Think about what your are saying. Every time you ride you are preparing to litigate for a damaged bike due to a crash. We don't do that for cars that cost much more. It's sick. My advice is only ride bikes you can afford to replace. Simpler all around.
I guess I'll go and get a Huffy then
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Then there is that time you catch things from your day of fun. My other 2 wheel hobbie, I happened to have my go pro and got run into at 100 mph. There was a slow rider in front of me and the guy behind me didn't check up like he was supposed to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqEuJ3_mtfo

Its at 3:34 so you don't have to suffer through the 3 minutes.

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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
And he showed his limitations when he said it. Jimmy Carter knew what be was talking about. We should have been enjoying the benefits of a national health care program all these years. You do me a great honor by associating me with him...Carter, I mean, not Reagan.
You are losing credibility with that. Historians and public opinion rank Carter towards the bottom and Regan at the top. Better stick with cycling.
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You are losing credibility with that. Historians and public opinion rank Carter towards the bottom and Regan at the top. Better stick with cycling.
Single subject, national health care. Any opponent of it in the last 50 years is by definition discredited. And I don't think Reagan gets such a high ranking with regard to economic policy either. Reagan was clearly a misguided naïf with regard to economics. Anyone who refuses to accept the absolute validity of Keynsian economics has no business being POTUS. Supply-side economiic, LOL. GHW Bush had it right: Voodoo!
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Single subject, national health care. Any opponent of it in the last 50 years is by definition discredited. And I don't think Reagan gets such a high ranking with regard to economic policy either. Reagan was clearly a misguided naïf with regard to economics. Anyone who refuses to accept the absolute validity of Keynsian economics has no business being POTUS. Supply-side economiic, LOL. GHW Bush had it right: Voodoo!
1. Wow, such an open mind.
2. P&R
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Originally Posted by achoo
1. Wow, such an open mind.
2. P&R
I'm confused. Since when does having an open mind mean not having strong opinions which can be proclaimed? Is it a desirable characteristic to have formed no opinion about something? Is that what having an open mind means, having an empty mind? Or does it mean having an opinion while still being interested in hearing and learning about what others have to say.

I have noticed on the 41 that folks spend as much time or more critiquing posters' debating style instead of their content. What is the value of that toward developing a mutually accepted truth?
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To get back on topic - The thought of capturing video for entertainment purposes during a ride sounds appealing , but the thought of reviewing a 2-3 hr ride and editing brief segments, then adding in some audio, sounds way too time consuming to me. I do really enjoy watching a brief video of a group ride if its well done, but some are like watching paint dry. I've kicked around the idea of getting a GoPro or the Contour, but I know I'd get consumed in trying to produce a video for others to enjoy, which would take over 2 hours to produce and probably less than 5 minutes to watch for the few that would watch it.

For those that capture video during their rides for safety reasons, I'm sure you realize you can't capture every angle to provide the necessary images, but it's better than doing nothing. I say do whatever makes you happy.
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Wow

Posts like the above should be moderated out of this forum.
High post count trollers continually hijack threads.
How did you get from Go Pro to Carter? That's trying way to hard and not in the spirit of this forum.

I had plans on getting a Go Pro, price is steep though. And, probably a high percentage of what I captured wouldn't be worthy to share.
One thing I did get from this thread is to hang the Go Pro in the back. Don't care for long forward facing videos myself.
Would be interesting to see what is going on behind.
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