For the love of English 3 speeds...
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https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/61-sc...566583414.html
As for adding text after a link, you know I'm going to have to try and defeat that?
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I'm glad to see Schwinn bicycles are included in this mix.
https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/61-sc...566583414.html
As for adding text after a link, you know I'm going to have to try and defeat that?![beer chug](https://www.bikeforums.net/images/smilies/beerchug.gif)
https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/61-sc...566583414.html
As for adding text after a link, you know I'm going to have to try and defeat that?
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testing 123. Nope! I give up. How did you get around the bug?
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1961 Schwinn: Those '61 Schwinn fenders can be found if you keep at the search a little while. The shark fin fender sets are less common than the later, plain ones, but they're not rare either. They can be found with a little looking in decent shape, at least decent enough to suit that project. That will be a nice bike for someone once it's all cleaned up. I love that blue color.
Sun CR 18 Rims: I have to admit I'm not a big fan. Yes, they're reasonably well-made, and yes, they're the best "drop-in" modernized rim for the English 3-speed, but they don't look anything like the original rims and I've found they're a massive pain to fit tires. I've given them several tries over the years, and I just don't think they're as good an option as original rims. I've never had an easy tire mount/dismount on CR-18 rims. This held true for Panaracer, Kenda, Schwalbe, and Cheng Shin tires - all were a bear to mount and dismount on the CR-18 rims. On some brake calipers, they also result in some weird brake arm angles when applying the brakes too (the arms being designed for wider rims). I don't think they're a "bad" choice, but I'm not buying any more of them if I can help it.
Sun CR 18 Rims: I have to admit I'm not a big fan. Yes, they're reasonably well-made, and yes, they're the best "drop-in" modernized rim for the English 3-speed, but they don't look anything like the original rims and I've found they're a massive pain to fit tires. I've given them several tries over the years, and I just don't think they're as good an option as original rims. I've never had an easy tire mount/dismount on CR-18 rims. This held true for Panaracer, Kenda, Schwalbe, and Cheng Shin tires - all were a bear to mount and dismount on the CR-18 rims. On some brake calipers, they also result in some weird brake arm angles when applying the brakes too (the arms being designed for wider rims). I don't think they're a "bad" choice, but I'm not buying any more of them if I can help it.
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Sun CR 18 Rims: I have to admit I'm not a big fan. Yes, they're reasonably well-made, and yes, they're the best "drop-in" modernized rim for the English 3-speed, but they don't look anything like the original rims and I've found they're a massive pain to fit tires. I've given them several tries over the years, and I just don't think they're as good an option as original rims. I've never had an easy tire mount/dismount on CR-18 rims. This held true for Panaracer, Kenda, Schwalbe, and Cheng Shin tires - all were a bear to mount and dismount on the CR-18 rims. On some brake calipers, they also result in some weird brake arm angles when applying the brakes too (the arms being designed for wider rims). I don't think they're a "bad" choice, but I'm not buying any more of them if I can help it.
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Sun CR 18 Rims: I have to admit I'm not a big fan. Yes, they're reasonably well-made, and yes, they're the best "drop-in" modernized rim for the English 3-speed, but they don't look anything like the original rims and I've found they're a massive pain to fit tires. I've given them several tries over the years, and I just don't think they're as good an option as original rims. I've never had an easy tire mount/dismount on CR-18 rims. This held true for Panaracer, Kenda, Schwalbe, and Cheng Shin tires - all were a bear to mount and dismount on the CR-18 rims. On some brake calipers, they also result in some weird brake arm angles when applying the brakes too (the arms being designed for wider rims). I don't think they're a "bad" choice, but I'm not buying any more of them if I can help it.
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1961 Schwinn: Those '61 Schwinn fenders can be found if you keep at the search a little while. The shark fin fender sets are less common than the later, plain ones, but they're not rare either. They can be found with a little looking in decent shape, at least decent enough to suit that project. That will be a nice bike for someone once it's all cleaned up. I love that blue color.
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I do see why some people love the CR-18 rims if they're doing tougher riding, in a lot of traffic, etc. They do stop better than the originals and they are quite a bit lighter. Aluminum rims took over for some good reasons. I've scored some nice, old rims from people swapping on the CR-18s, and I end up with the originals because people don't want them any more.
The Schwinn frames have different geometry and frame joint shapes, so they look different. They are slightly larger than the corresponding Raleigh frame. The "medium" frame, with the external seat clamp in place, is about 22 inches rather than 21. The large is closer to 24 than 23. That '61 is a medium. Everyone wishes Schwinn made more tall earlier bikes (1938-63). They didn't make many compared to the medium 22 and the small 19-20 inchers.
The Schwinn frames have different geometry and frame joint shapes, so they look different. They are slightly larger than the corresponding Raleigh frame. The "medium" frame, with the external seat clamp in place, is about 22 inches rather than 21. The large is closer to 24 than 23. That '61 is a medium. Everyone wishes Schwinn made more tall earlier bikes (1938-63). They didn't make many compared to the medium 22 and the small 19-20 inchers.
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Had DL1 (number2) outdoors for some photos last evening. This was my favorite shot.
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The rest of the bike.
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The Schwinn frames have different geometry and frame joint shapes, so they look different. They are slightly larger than the corresponding Raleigh frame. The "medium" frame, with the external seat clamp in place, is about 22 inches rather than 21. The large is closer to 24 than 23. That '61 is a medium. Everyone wishes Schwinn made more tall earlier bikes (1938-63). They didn't make many compared to the medium 22 and the small 19-20 inchers.
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DL-1 for sale 2300 miles from me. Aussie$400/ US$300
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A Dutch variant perhaps? Nice shade of green. Sachs/SRAM 3 speed - possibly coaster brake, caliper brakes up front. Fancy dyno hub. My knee was doing weird things on the weekend, so I haven't checked out the China Post roadster yet.
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raleigh perth by arty dave armour, on Flickr
A Dutch variant perhaps? Nice shade of green. Sachs/SRAM 3 speed - possibly coaster brake, caliper brakes up front. Fancy dyno hub. My knee was doing weird things on the weekend, so I haven't checked out the China Post roadster yet.
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DL-1 for sale 2300 miles from me. Aussie$400/ US$300
![](https://farm1.staticflickr.com/975/41058496914_485288316e_b.jpg)
raleigh perth by arty dave armour, on Flickr
A Dutch variant perhaps? Nice shade of green. Sachs/SRAM 3 speed - possibly coaster brake, caliper brakes up front. Fancy dyno hub. My knee was doing weird things on the weekend, so I haven't checked out the China Post roadster yet.
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raleigh perth by arty dave armour, on Flickr
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Speaking of Schwinn 3 speed lightweights, here's a 61 Traveler in Portsmouth. Love the chrome trimmed chainguard, but would you ever be able to find the correct fenders?
https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/61-s...566583414.html
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It does seem to have longer chain stays than the Raleigh Sports. I like this bike. It's a top of the line 3 speed with all the extra goodies and it still has some of the older styling. If I didn't just buy another project, I'd be very tempted on this one.
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I just spent a frustrating hour trying to work the Rudge's handlebar through the stem. Could not get it past the sharper part of the bend. Is there a trick I don't know? (Other than all the many tricks I don't know.)
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The wheels I liberated from that abandoned Sports I posted about. Look crusty, but I think the visible surfaces will clean up well. In case I decide against CR18s for the Rudge. As a bonus, two good inner tubes and one good tire. One wheel had a rubber rim strip (rotting) and the original cloth (also rotting). Belt and suspenders.
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Those rims look like they're still good. The thing to decide is if you want the wheels for a cheap fix or to clean up and keep for spare parts. Chances are that the spoke nipples are frozen and penetrating oil may or may not get them working. In either case, I use a wire wheel on my drill to take of the rust on the inside down to steel. I try to leave any good chrome I can. Then I give it a couple coats of silver Rustoleum. I polish the tops as best as I can and give it a coat of wax.