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Old 12-12-23, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Did you use a local anesthetic? I hope so.

I went to an ortho in high school with a swollen knee after a running accident. He drained 60 cc of blood, no local. The most painful thing I ever experienced (and I have broken a hip).

I could see him twisting the syringe back and forth, as I bit into the pillow stuffed into my mouth to muffle the screaming.
We must have used something, but local anesthetic only numbs the skin and provides mainly a placebo effect for the patient and the operator. I've watched my wife have joints aspirated and injected with steroid meds. If I looked closely I might have seen her pupils dilating slightly.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Have you stocked up on jerky, sour brite crawlers, Corn Nuts, and Red Bull yet?
Nope. Could do so at the Richmond Buc-ee's, but I'll probably just use the bathroom.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I remember when Amtrak was touting being able to max out at 180 mph on the Northeast Corridor a few years ago.

Gee. That would bring us up to where France was--in the middle 1980s.
The California High-Speed Rail project is progressing, and by late 2030 they expect to start carrying passengers. Between Fresno and Bakersfield.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I thought those were debunked as antihistamine, and were only good for bathtub speed.
You are getting confused. The debunked medicine is PPA or phenyl propanolamine which is a decongenstant of dubious/weak benefit, and the FDA is working on getting it off the shelves.

The good stuff is sudafed, pseudephedrine. This is for PRESSURE/CONGESTION. Its dark side is that it may cause your to feel speedy/ramped up a bit, and raise your BP.

The antihistamines are to reduce mucus typically related more to allergies than infections, such as claritin/allegra/zyrtec/benadryl. They are generally safe although old fashioned ones like benadryl are mildly sedating.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I thought they were all 24 hours. I might have to check with Einstein.
The day/night combination, yes.
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Old 12-12-23, 12:53 PM
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The solo RAAM record is around 8 days. Maybe the cocktails LesterOfPuppets suggested for Velo Vol might help. The bike shop may be cranky at your 8 day test ride though, and having to pick it up back east somewhere.
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Originally Posted by ls01
If it was really serious you'd be hanging out at the closest bike shop wearing bibs. "Can I ride test that...I'm thinking about buying it....."

There is nothing near central phx. I checked, and spending money to uber to a bike shop for no reason seems silly. All I have are bibs with me.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
The solo RAAM record is around 8 days. Maybe the cocktails LesterOfPuppets suggested for Velo Vol might help. The bike shop may be cranky at your 8 day test ride though, and having to pick it up back east somewhere.

I thought it was 16 days. Or was it 8 days 16 hours? That Aussie lad right?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
My great grandfather stole a pig or something from a gypsie back in the day. My family has had terrible luck ever since.

#holes


If you read the book or saw the movie you would know what I am talking about.
I read that book. At least they are paying you well.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Whichever day has the earliest sunset. From now until June things will only get better, by that metric.

I thought from prior years of looking it up that it's actually around December 7 or 8. But she made a graphic for it.


I'm tired of riding in the dark.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
We must have used something, but local anesthetic only numbs the skin and provides mainly a placebo effect for the patient and the operator. I've watched my wife have joints aspirated and injected with steroid meds. If I looked closely I might have seen her pupils dilating slightly.
Yes, they use that spray stuff, which works pretty well for the initial needling. But as he works on sucking out the fluid, you start to feel it, and it's not a pleasant sensation.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize2
I read that book. At least they are paying you well.
Who is paying me well? I’m not getting paid at the moment. Out of sick time this year between Simon coming into this world and my daughter going to a germ farm 5 days a week.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Is that Jodie Foster playing Diana Nyad on Netflix??? Might have to check that out tonight.

Or maybe Annette Benning? Must be playing Nyad 20 years apart, or one of them is her coach, we'll see tonight.


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Originally Posted by bampilot06
He [Steve Martin] is one of those actors that has always looked the same.
Not always.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Oh, no. Getting a timeshare sales pitch and will sit by the pool while it's still cold here.
We went to one in SC a few years ago. Did the required pitch and the sales guy asked my wife what her level of interest was on a scale of 1-10 after hounding us a bit.

She says “1”

Sales person asked “with all of the benefits, why a one?”

her response: “because zero wasn’t a ******g option”

they left us alone after that
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Yes, they use that spray stuff, which works pretty well for the initial needling. But as he works on sucking out the fluid, you start to feel it, and it's not a pleasant sensation.

RMOT (warning: eastcoast motorcycle roadtrip content)

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Originally Posted by datlas
You are getting confused. The debunked medicine is PPA or phenyl propanolamine which is a decongenstant of dubious/weak benefit, and the FDA is working on getting it off the shelves.

The good stuff is sudafed, pseudephedrine. This is for PRESSURE/CONGESTION. Its dark side is that it may cause your to feel speedy/ramped up a bit, and raise your BP.

The antihistamines are to reduce mucus typically related more to allergies than infections, such as claritin/allegra/zyrtec/benadryl. They are generally safe although old fashioned ones like benadryl are mildly sedating.
On the rare occasions when I take it at all, I generally take ONE Sudafed, which is half the recommended dosage, because 1) hypertension, and 2) 2 feels like too many cups of coffee.
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Originally Posted by datlas
You are getting confused. The debunked medicine is PPA or phenyl propanolamine which is a decongenstant of dubious/weak benefit, and the FDA is working on getting it off the shelves.

The good stuff is sudafed, pseudephedrine. This is for PRESSURE/CONGESTION. Its dark side is that it may cause your to feel speedy/ramped up a bit, and raise your BP.

The antihistamines are to reduce mucus typically related more to allergies than infections, such as claritin/allegra/zyrtec/benadryl. They are generally safe although old fashioned ones like benadryl are mildly sedating.
Gotcha. Definitely confused.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
I thought it was 16 days. Or was it 8 days 16 hours? That Aussie lad right?
Strasser. 7 days and 15 hours, come to find out.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
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I doubt it'll be that entertaining.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I thought those were debunked as antihistamine, and were only good for bathtub speed.
Pseudoephedrine is the good stuff, but it's a decongestant (stuffy nose), not an antihistamine (sneezy nose). Still behind the counter, and you have to give them an ID when buying.

It was the over the counter "fake" pseudoephedrine that didn't work, which was taken off the market recently.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Wife wants me to wait it out currently.
The airline is willing to pay for your extended hotel stay, but not for either transport or hotel stays on the way home? Seems bureaucratic as probably a wash or even cheaper to get you home by ground transport. Rules don't always make sense but I thought the airline pilots had pretty strong unions will rules in place for situations like this.

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Lester how dangerous would it be to walk to this shop?
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
We must have used something, but local anesthetic only numbs the skin and provides mainly a placebo effect for the patient and the operator.
No lidocaine injections? I thought it numbs your joint nicely.
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Originally Posted by SwtBadger
The airline is willing to pay for your extended hotel stay, but not for either transport or hotel stays on the way home? Seems bureaucratic as probably a wash or even cheaper to get you home by ground transport. Rules don't always make sense but I thought the airline pilots had pretty strong unions will rules in place for situations like this.

Good luck

Im going to start pressing the issue tomorrow if it doesn’t clear, but from my understanding, generally dead heads are the only approved transportation. They will taxi you in some cases but the longest I have heard of is 3 hours and that was not to get someone home but to get them in place for the next flight. A seat on the plane doesn’t cost the airline anything, the hotels have contracts and a lot of times extra rooms are already paid for.

I understand what you are saying, if it doesn’t clear by tomorrow I will see if I can get a train ride or bus ride or anything. At this rate by the time I get home I will have to turn around and go back to work. Stupid.
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