ibtyen

I'll see if there's anything we can do about this.

Rollfast

There is a phantom last page in this thread


https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...t-ii-1568.html

PatrickGSR94

It's almost like there are a few deleted posts in such threads, but the database doesn't take into account the deleted threads when figuring the pages and post totals. At some point when there are enough posts, the pages will be correct, but then before it gets to the next page of posts, it thinks there's another page.

IBobi

At the moment, post#39208 is the latest.

When threads get this big, there will nearly always be issues.

smontanaro 

I do not believe that to be the case. Here's an image I just downloaded from my Flickr account, then uploaded here using the "Manage Attachments" feature. I downloaded it at original resolution, 2688x1520. The attached image (not mouse-sensitive) is only 1016x574, roughly the same aspect ratio, but nowhere near the same resolution. I uploaded the full sized image. The forum software reduced its quality, and apparently either threw away the original, or has hidden it so I can't view it.

I will repeat my request: The "Attached Images" box should have thumbnails (little images) which are mouse-sensitive, and that, when clicked, display the full-sized image the user originally uploaded. This was always the case before last year's update of the forum software.

PatrickGSR94

Yeah but there are a number of threads with this issue that did not have the issue before the software migration.

IBobi

Possible.

ibtyen

I see what you mean. I'll look into if something can be done.

IBobi

The way images are handled fundamentally changed with the software update, and the core functions of VBulletin treat images this way -- attach them and you get an image at the end of a post. Link to them from a URL (photobucket, Flickr, etc) and you may place them as you like in your post. But the old way of thumbnailing is no more, until the software is updated again by the manufacturer.

Siu Blue Wind

I closed down a thread that was huge and started a new one so it would load faster and I got a complaint about it. So I opened it back up. I guess they don't mind.

Siu Blue Wind

I've found that this happens when a post is "deleted". They still remain here but it cannot be seen.

Rollfast

My understanding is that this would be the reason to prefer a soft delete over actual complete deletion. This causes fewer database errors.


The problem has existed for several years and at least back to the original version 3.x.x platforms. It may be common to the entire platform series, but I merely report it to allow admins and IB staff to work on it. I'm not criticizing it. Nothing is ever perfect, only the best mashup that can be had.

smontanaro 

References to Craigslist images continues to be a problem. Consider this thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...t-ii-1580.html

As far as I can tell, all CL images show as "broken", but if you right mouse over them and ask to open in a new tab in the popup menu, they display fine. What's up with that?

ibtyen

What browser are you using? I'm viewing the thread and images show up fine (on chrome)

smontanaro 

^ At the moment, Chrome on a Linux system at work (56.0.2924.87). Same issue yesterday (and before) from Chrome on both Mac and Linux at home. This has been going on since the upgrade. I'm pretty sure I've reported it before.

ibtyen

Could you post a screenshot?

smontanaro 

Images are all working now (back at home, Chrome on Linux, v 56.0.2924.87). Just posted a rather pretty Rossin for good measure...

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...t-ii-1581.html

I believe I've seen this behavior before as well (gone for awhile, working later, perhaps next day?) If it happens again, I will grab a screen shot.

Rollfast

Have anyone with these troubles searched to find any trouble reports over their browsers/OSes in the period that they have the problems?


Everyone thinks they have it pinned down to this one site but they aren't using others from Internet Brands, or are they...and do they use ANY other sites using any other version of vBulletin, like 4.2.x or 5, especially if they have advertising?


This site and all the other IB owned sites use a proprietary version of the platform, so you need to account for that, and also for what you use to view BF, browser, device and all.


I could logout and see if I get mugged that way but I also wonder if PC/Windows users even have this problem?

smontanaro 

@Rollfast You're saying that if I don't toe the line on platforms (Windows only, some IB-specified set of browsers), I can expect this sort of breakage? I don't know what forum platform they use, but I've never seen this issue with The Paceline (forums.thepaceline.net) or US Masters Swimming (forums.usms.org). I never saw it here until the upgrade.

PatrickGSR94

Whoa, is there no Autosave/Restore Autosaved Content anymore?? I just typed a lengthy post, then my thumb accidentally hit the back button on the side of my mouse. I hit Forward on the browser and it was all gone. Sometimes my typed post will be there, but otherwise there's usually a "restore autosaved content" function. If that function is gone or turned off, that's really disappointing.

ibtyen

The feature is there. It just needs to be enabled. Under userCP > Edit Options > Message Editor Interface. Select CKeditor.

Rollfast

If you back up, hit the forward -> button and see if you can get it back. Auto-save won't kick in until some time after you've started the post, and then only the portion sve will come back if you haven't reached the next intveral for saving when you lose the page or control of it. If you can get back to the page and some is saved you might see restore auto-saved content at the bottom of the window, click it and try and restorre what you can then replace the rest yourself.

PatrickGSR94

In my experience on vB forums, the little "Autosave" tag appears in the bottom corner of the text box about once a minute or so while actively typing. It never appears here, and I've never seen it dependent on what editor type is used. I use the WYSIWIG editor, because the CKeditor removes a bunch of formatting options, and doesn't actually show the formatting in the text box. It only shows the BB code tags.

Rollfast

I had another vB (4) forum give me a CKEditor error recently and it was new to me (huh)? I had to look it up then and you guys actually explained it even so.

smontanaro 

Sorry it took awhile to get around to this. I can't do screen captures on my work computer, and I've been out of commission after a crash. Here's a snapshot taken just now on my Mac. It's from the tail end of page 1596 of this thread:

https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...t-ii-1596.html

I just posted something to that thread which became the first message on page 1597. It appeared just fine, though the images came from an eBay auction. The best I can tell, this broken image phenomenon only occurs for me with Craigslist images.