The frame doesn't fit pass-around game
#1451
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I've owned this for 2.5 years, but I'm starting to think I'd be happier on a smaller frame. '92 Paramount Series 3 PDG, made in Japan, 56cm c-c seat tube, 57cm c-c top tube. Paint isn't perfect, but is really nice. Looking for a 53-54ish steel frame/fork, maybe a little newer (80s-90s, but certainly not necessary) since it'll be a retro roadie build.
I'll be back in the U.S. by the end of April for shipping concerns, just wanted to throw this out there. Also have the full original 7 speed RX100 build if anyone local (Seattle or Victoria) is interested in more than the frame.
I'll be back in the U.S. by the end of April for shipping concerns, just wanted to throw this out there. Also have the full original 7 speed RX100 build if anyone local (Seattle or Victoria) is interested in more than the frame.
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#1452
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I'm going to throw out the same/similar deal. I will be back in the country before the end of May. I've finally realized that my 87 Prelude, in Midnight Mauve, is redundant. It's 58 cm/23". I can get actual measurements and pics if need be. I'd like to trade it for a 57-58cm Schwinn Superior electroforged frameset. Preferably red or orange, but in reality, any color will do. Frame, fork, headset.
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Anyone have a 60cm frame with nice thin tubing, damaged stays, no fork, and bad paint?
Okay, how about 59 cm? 58?
61?
Okay, how about 59 cm? 58?
61?
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Oh, no, sorry, has to be steel! But: thanks!
Tange Prestige sounds good! But I don't think 650c will work. Anyway, I want the main triangle to be undamaged. But: thanks!
Tange Prestige sounds good! But I don't think 650c will work. Anyway, I want the main triangle to be undamaged. But: thanks!
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Well, I don't know if I want to out this scheme just yet, but if I find the right frame, I'll post about it for sure. In the mean time, suffice it to say, if I told you, you'd try to talk me out of it!
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I have an old Raleigh Record that is much bigger than my 58cm supercourses, problem is it is in my basement in Lancaster, PA and I am in Cambodia.
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mystery frame 3000
HAVE: this awesome italian mystery frame:
SIZE: 62-63
Clearly re-sprayed.
No DT bosses.
Campy drop outs.
Light. must be columbus or 531
Italian BB
BB Stamped with number.
Accepts a 27.2mm seat post
LOOKING FOR:
frameset 56-59ish ideally 57
tricolor hubs/wheelsets
tricolor brake levers
campy aero or non-aero brake levers
a Scapin fork
a Campagnolo record titanium series front brake
any nifty italian bits
cool generator/lights
Campy 1' threaded headset.
Campy english(SAE?) BB cups for a Ultra Torque style crankset.
Campy carbon Ultra Torque crankset
SIZE: 62-63
Clearly re-sprayed.
No DT bosses.
Campy drop outs.
Light. must be columbus or 531
Italian BB
BB Stamped with number.
Accepts a 27.2mm seat post
LOOKING FOR:
frameset 56-59ish ideally 57
tricolor hubs/wheelsets
tricolor brake levers
campy aero or non-aero brake levers
a Scapin fork
a Campagnolo record titanium series front brake
any nifty italian bits
cool generator/lights
Campy 1' threaded headset.
Campy english(SAE?) BB cups for a Ultra Torque style crankset.
Campy carbon Ultra Torque crankset
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#1461
Still learning
Have:
1998 Bianchi Trofeo frame/fork/Miche headset, lugged Dediacci tubing, Unicrown fork, made in Italy, Miche alloy headset.
58cm c-bb to top of tt. 57cm c-c top tube. Very nice condition, well under 200 miles.
UPDATE: now that the components are off, the frame is 4.3 lbs, the fork is 1.9 lbs.
ISO:
56cm Ironman, 1985, 1989. Frame/fork/headset.
UPDATE: Need some other stuff, if not a frame.
1998 Bianchi Trofeo frame/fork/Miche headset, lugged Dediacci tubing, Unicrown fork, made in Italy, Miche alloy headset.
58cm c-bb to top of tt. 57cm c-c top tube. Very nice condition, well under 200 miles.
UPDATE: now that the components are off, the frame is 4.3 lbs, the fork is 1.9 lbs.
ISO:
56cm Ironman, 1985, 1989. Frame/fork/headset.
UPDATE: Need some other stuff, if not a frame.
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#1462
Still learning
#1463
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#1464
wears long socks
I'm going to throw out the same/similar deal. I will be back in the country before the end of May. I've finally realized that my 87 Prelude, in Midnight Mauve, is redundant. It's 58 cm/23". I can get actual measurements and pics if need be. I'd like to trade it for a 57-58cm Schwinn Superior electroforged frameset. Preferably red or orange, but in reality, any color will do. Frame, fork, headset.
#1466
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Hey there... I have a 1986 Specialized Stumpjumper XT that is a bit too large for me. I've been trying to find the same bike with a 20" or 21" frame. My bike is a 23" with a 33.5" standover height.
I live in Southern California and I've been checking Craigslist and Ebay for a smaller/similar size. No luck.
This is a long shot... any takers?
I live in Southern California and I've been checking Craigslist and Ebay for a smaller/similar size. No luck.
This is a long shot... any takers?
#1467
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Hey there... I have a 1986 Specialized Stumpjumper XT that is a bit too large for me. I've been trying to find the same bike with a 20" or 21" frame. My bike is a 23" with a 33.5" standover height.
I live in Southern California and I've been checking Craigslist and Ebay for a smaller/similar size. No luck.
This is a long shot... any takers?
I live in Southern California and I've been checking Craigslist and Ebay for a smaller/similar size. No luck.
This is a long shot... any takers?
I don't have a recent picture, but this was pretty soon after it was found several years ago.
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#1468
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I have built this 90-91 Crosscut up and cannot get comfortable with the large size. 22" cut with 24" ctc top tube.
Soso paint but very light, DB Tru Temper frame and fork. 700 wheels with canti brakes
Anyone have something interesting to trade ?
Upload of other pics failed, will get more if anyone interested.
Thanks !
Soso paint but very light, DB Tru Temper frame and fork. 700 wheels with canti brakes
Anyone have something interesting to trade ?
Upload of other pics failed, will get more if anyone interested.
Thanks !
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#1470
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There's some rust on the top tube, both under, and around the cable guides. Also at both top tube lugs.
A photographer I am not.
There's some rust on the top tube, both under, and around the cable guides. Also at both top tube lugs.
A photographer I am not.
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#1471
hi
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Have: 1986 Serotta Nova Special X frame/fork.
Columbus SLX, Campagnolo drops.
56x56
When I got it, the top tube brake cable guide loops were broken off. I had more "modern" top tube cable stops installed, so no more loops.
Just faced the BB and HT, rear spaced to 130, derailleur hanger aligned. Nice lugwork.
Ready to be built up, but it needs to be refinished first, no question about it. Replacement decals are still available from velocals or your painter. Pictures can be sent if needed.
Looking to trade for: 52x52 similar quality, East Coast frameset preferred, but I would also consider a west coast builder. Aesthetics not crucial, but it must be sound and straight and all that good stuff.
Just figured that I'd see what was available before I dropped the coin on refinishing a frame that is too large for me anyhow.
Columbus SLX, Campagnolo drops.
56x56
When I got it, the top tube brake cable guide loops were broken off. I had more "modern" top tube cable stops installed, so no more loops.
Just faced the BB and HT, rear spaced to 130, derailleur hanger aligned. Nice lugwork.
Ready to be built up, but it needs to be refinished first, no question about it. Replacement decals are still available from velocals or your painter. Pictures can be sent if needed.
Looking to trade for: 52x52 similar quality, East Coast frameset preferred, but I would also consider a west coast builder. Aesthetics not crucial, but it must be sound and straight and all that good stuff.
Just figured that I'd see what was available before I dropped the coin on refinishing a frame that is too large for me anyhow.
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Jumping in as I'm finally accepting the fact that this frame is too small for me.
1985ish Cilo frame and fork, Columbus SLX tubing and Gipiemme ends and drops. Can come with the 2 month-old Shimano sealed cartridge BB and VO Grand Cru headset if the trade is right. The decals are a little tacky and some are coming apart, but this is a rider and I didn't mind. There are few small nicks here and there (pea-sized or smaller) and one slight ding on the chainstay near the crank, probably from a chain that went wild. I didn't notice it until the end of a frame-up build. This thing rides really really well, but I'm cramped and need to pass it on to someone who will love it.
Seat tube measures ~52.5cm c-to-c
Top tube measures ~53.5cm c-to-c
Looking for a trade in the 55-56cm range, of similar quality and condition. Shipping to/from Hawaii is ~$100 anywhere in the continental U.S. and I'll pack it well.
Whatcha got?
1985ish Cilo frame and fork, Columbus SLX tubing and Gipiemme ends and drops. Can come with the 2 month-old Shimano sealed cartridge BB and VO Grand Cru headset if the trade is right. The decals are a little tacky and some are coming apart, but this is a rider and I didn't mind. There are few small nicks here and there (pea-sized or smaller) and one slight ding on the chainstay near the crank, probably from a chain that went wild. I didn't notice it until the end of a frame-up build. This thing rides really really well, but I'm cramped and need to pass it on to someone who will love it.
Seat tube measures ~52.5cm c-to-c
Top tube measures ~53.5cm c-to-c
Looking for a trade in the 55-56cm range, of similar quality and condition. Shipping to/from Hawaii is ~$100 anywhere in the continental U.S. and I'll pack it well.
Whatcha got?
#1473
The Drive Side is Within
Yellow Rust-E Mixt-E Pug (Aztec Lug) Complete minus mafac racer centerpulls. Wonder where they went...
You probably don't want the steel 27" wheels, though.
Happy to pay it forward, or trade what you like. I like large frames.
You probably don't want the steel 27" wheels, though.
Happy to pay it forward, or trade what you like. I like large frames.
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#1474
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I've got a 25" Giant RS920 frame which is way to big for me, looking for something smaller, 21"/54 cm range.