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Someone above mentioned returning them to the National Armory at the end of the war, but one of the Nations was a smoking hole in Richmond at that point....
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Also, you need at least one horse per gun. Kill the horses, and the guns go nowhere.
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Retreats were often less than organized, and pursuits might not bother to pick up after the gun crews as they ran. Plus, if the gun carriage was damaged, someone would have to fix it to bring that gun along.
Also, you need at least one horse per gun. Kill the horses, and the guns go nowhere.
Also, you need at least one horse per gun. Kill the horses, and the guns go nowhere.
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Okay, I think that these are pretty fly -
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My post: "My future SIL has a collection of antique things like flintlocks and other muzzleloaders. He also has a couple of Civil War era cannons."
I never said it was a "Civil War" cannon or cannon used in the Civil War. I don't know who made it or where it originated. I was just told that "it was made in the mid-1800s" which in my mind is the Civil War era. Perhaps I should have said, "19th Century" cannon. I don't know if any of the thing he has were actually used in the Civil War. FSIL was named after his grandfather, and the grandfather simply left the stuff to him when he died in the '80s.
As far as soldier's taking a cannon home with them, the answer is probably very few. But, a lot of stuff was left on the land when everything was over, especially by the defeated Confederates. There wasn't much environmental concern back then, and a lot of land is very remote so there likely wasn't much concern about kids finding things and hurting themselves. Land owners, especially those with a lot of rough ranch land, frequently just stick stuff they find on their land into a barn or shed somewhere if they think it's cool at the time and forget about it. I've seen that first hand going through a barn and abandoned house on my wife's grandmother's land in east Texas.
I never said it was a "Civil War" cannon or cannon used in the Civil War. I don't know who made it or where it originated. I was just told that "it was made in the mid-1800s" which in my mind is the Civil War era. Perhaps I should have said, "19th Century" cannon. I don't know if any of the thing he has were actually used in the Civil War. FSIL was named after his grandfather, and the grandfather simply left the stuff to him when he died in the '80s.
As far as soldier's taking a cannon home with them, the answer is probably very few. But, a lot of stuff was left on the land when everything was over, especially by the defeated Confederates. There wasn't much environmental concern back then, and a lot of land is very remote so there likely wasn't much concern about kids finding things and hurting themselves. Land owners, especially those with a lot of rough ranch land, frequently just stick stuff they find on their land into a barn or shed somewhere if they think it's cool at the time and forget about it. I've seen that first hand going through a barn and abandoned house on my wife's grandmother's land in east Texas.
You aren't one of those people who think Tejas mattered in the Civil War, are you? No battles west of the Mississippi River counted.
I suspect it's old news, but the Netflix mini-series "The Queen's Gambit" is pretty good. Mrs datlas and I watched it over the past week. I personally watch almost zero TV and am pretty picky about what I see. I would rate it 4.5 stars out of 5. It's got some flaws but overall quite good.
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Back then armies were more militia based. Someone had to care for the weaponry of the day. Think 2nd amenent. And militia. I cant go further than this due to the "kitten" controversy on the forum
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My post: "My future SIL has a collection of antique things like flintlocks and other muzzleloaders. He also has a couple of Civil War era cannons."
I never said it was a "Civil War" cannon or cannon used in the Civil War. I don't know who made it or where it originated. I was just told that "it was made in the mid-1800s" which in my mind is the Civil War era. Perhaps I should have said, "19th Century" cannon. I don't know if any of the thing he has were actually used in the Civil War. FSIL was named after his grandfather, and the grandfather simply left the stuff to him when he died in the '80s.
As far as soldier's taking a cannon home with them, the answer is probably very few. But, a lot of stuff was left on the land when everything was over, especially by the defeated Confederates. There wasn't much environmental concern back then, and a lot of land is very remote so there likely wasn't much concern about kids finding things and hurting themselves. Land owners, especially those with a lot of rough ranch land, frequently just stick stuff they find on their land into a barn or shed somewhere if they think it's cool at the time and forget about it. I've seen that first hand going through a barn and abandoned house on my wife's grandmother's land in east Texas.
I never said it was a "Civil War" cannon or cannon used in the Civil War. I don't know who made it or where it originated. I was just told that "it was made in the mid-1800s" which in my mind is the Civil War era. Perhaps I should have said, "19th Century" cannon. I don't know if any of the thing he has were actually used in the Civil War. FSIL was named after his grandfather, and the grandfather simply left the stuff to him when he died in the '80s.
As far as soldier's taking a cannon home with them, the answer is probably very few. But, a lot of stuff was left on the land when everything was over, especially by the defeated Confederates. There wasn't much environmental concern back then, and a lot of land is very remote so there likely wasn't much concern about kids finding things and hurting themselves. Land owners, especially those with a lot of rough ranch land, frequently just stick stuff they find on their land into a barn or shed somewhere if they think it's cool at the time and forget about it. I've seen that first hand going through a barn and abandoned house on my wife's grandmother's land in east Texas.
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If the victors of that battle were doing it right, yeah. Lincoln was apparently very upset with Meade for not mounting an aggressive pursuit of the Army of Northern Virginia after Gettysburg. Said it reminded him of an old woman shooing geese out of her yard.
BTW, I grew up 8 miles from Gettysburg, so civil war cannon were all around. If you've never been there, I think they sited several guns at every place where they knew they were during the battle. Because the After Action Reports survived, they know how many of which kind of gun were where, and when the Battlefield was set up for tourism, I think a lot of work went into putting appropriate pieces where they would have been, including a couple Whitworth breechloaders up by the Peace Light.
BTW, I grew up 8 miles from Gettysburg, so civil war cannon were all around. If you've never been there, I think they sited several guns at every place where they knew they were during the battle. Because the After Action Reports survived, they know how many of which kind of gun were where, and when the Battlefield was set up for tourism, I think a lot of work went into putting appropriate pieces where they would have been, including a couple Whitworth breechloaders up by the Peace Light.
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My only beef with it is that it somewhat glorifies and/or underplays the truly dark side of alcohol and drug abuse.
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And, there is no need to authenticate something that I did not claim.
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For those of us with family members On The Spectrum, the combination of focused intelligence on the one hand and inability to comprehend social interaction on the other was very familiar.
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In the case of cannon, I've noted when wandering battlefields that most have a serial number cast in to the barrel and I'd bet the government tried to get as many returned to the armories as possible. IN VV's case, he lives in a state of many CW battlefields and he could easily inspect cannons if he wished. I was just at Stones River battlefield in Murfreesboro, TN in October and checked out the various cannons and there are many throughout the park.
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Quite frankly, I could care a less. I was not a citizen of the planet Earth when that nonsense took place. There is a guy that lives about a quarter mile from me that flies a Confederate flag. Perhaps you could ask him. I'm not sure I'd walk up his sidewalk though.
And, there is no need to authenticate something that I did not claim.
And, there is no need to authenticate something that I did not claim.
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I discovered you can watch chess anytime of day at Twitch. It's a curious place.
I remember what I told them when I took the bike in.
There is a "Civil War era" cannon at Fort Dickerson Park.
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He called me after he had already changed the bars. Try to keep up.
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