What FRED gift did you get from non-cycling persons?
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Anyway, my point is that it's not a "crappy gift" worthy of "disgust". Actually, it is a really nice piece of equipment and something that indicates that the giver wants to support the receiver's outdoor pursuits.
What you guys think is "crappy" and worthy of "disgust" is that this perfectly fine, good quality, thoughtful gift is not what he (OP) wanted. Just because it's not what he wanted does not mean it's not thoughtful or a nice item.
See the difference? A few years under the belt will reveal a lot of this stuff to you guys if you pay attention to life a little.
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People don't realize how hurtful the rejection of gifts are. Accept the gift and appreciate the thought.
my mother in law never accepts any gifts that my wife gives her, it's like a joke. One time I spend a decent amount of time picking out some earrings for my wife and she took them back. Then later she realized that they were much better than what she ended up with and apologized. But the damage was done and let her buy things like that for herself. My daughter has gotten the bug, she was furious over the gifts she got this year and made a big scene. She has been off at college and we have no idea what to get her, but my wife felt compelled to get her something. I've been telling my wife for a couple of years that there is an easy solution to that problem -- cash or nothing with a preference on the "nothing" side. Some people never learn without some natural consequences.
my mother in law never accepts any gifts that my wife gives her, it's like a joke. One time I spend a decent amount of time picking out some earrings for my wife and she took them back. Then later she realized that they were much better than what she ended up with and apologized. But the damage was done and let her buy things like that for herself. My daughter has gotten the bug, she was furious over the gifts she got this year and made a big scene. She has been off at college and we have no idea what to get her, but my wife felt compelled to get her something. I've been telling my wife for a couple of years that there is an easy solution to that problem -- cash or nothing with a preference on the "nothing" side. Some people never learn without some natural consequences.
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People don't realize how hurtful the rejection of gifts are. Accept the gift and appreciate the thought.
my mother in law never accepts any gifts that my wife gives her, it's like a joke. One time I spend a decent amount of time picking out some earrings for my wife and she took them back. Then later she realized that they were much better than what she ended up with and apologized. But the damage was done and let her buy things like that for herself. My daughter has gotten the bug, she was furious over the gifts she got this year and made a big scene. She has been off at college and we have no idea what to get her, but my wife felt compelled to get her something. I've been telling my wife for a couple of years that there is an easy solution to that problem -- cash or nothing with a preference on the "nothing" side. Some people never learn without some natural consequences.
my mother in law never accepts any gifts that my wife gives her, it's like a joke. One time I spend a decent amount of time picking out some earrings for my wife and she took them back. Then later she realized that they were much better than what she ended up with and apologized. But the damage was done and let her buy things like that for herself. My daughter has gotten the bug, she was furious over the gifts she got this year and made a big scene. She has been off at college and we have no idea what to get her, but my wife felt compelled to get her something. I've been telling my wife for a couple of years that there is an easy solution to that problem -- cash or nothing with a preference on the "nothing" side. Some people never learn without some natural consequences.
The joke I repeat over and over is, "surprise her by getting exactly what she wants." Except I don't deviate from that plan with a couple individuals. After you make someone upset too many times just for trying to do a good thing, you quit trying. Even if you get exactly the right thing (because you were told) it takes most of the joy out of it, because it's no longer a gift in the real sense of the word.
One gift that would benefit some people is the ability to see the world through the eyes of others.
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I work at a bike shop.
My Grandmother gave me a gift card to a different bike shop.
Awkward.
My Grandmother gave me a gift card to a different bike shop.
Awkward.
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Wow, the OP really sounds like someone who needs to HTFU.
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I find it appalling that people automatically assume this guy isn't grateful for the gift he received.
I struggle to find people gifts because I absolutely refuse to buy things that someone won't use. I find wasting money repulsive and just as I don't want to waste money on people I wouldn't want them to waste it on me. This doesn't make one ungrateful, in fact just the opposite.
This thread is pretty funny though. It's fun to see the crazy things people get for Christmas from people when they think you're 'in to' something.
I struggle to find people gifts because I absolutely refuse to buy things that someone won't use. I find wasting money repulsive and just as I don't want to waste money on people I wouldn't want them to waste it on me. This doesn't make one ungrateful, in fact just the opposite.
This thread is pretty funny though. It's fun to see the crazy things people get for Christmas from people when they think you're 'in to' something.
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I find it appalling that people automatically assume this guy isn't grateful for the gift he received.
I struggle to find people gifts because I absolutely refuse to buy things that someone won't use. I find wasting money repulsive and just as I don't want to waste money on people I wouldn't want them to waste it on me. This doesn't make one ungrateful, in fact just the opposite.
This thread is pretty funny though. It's fun to see the crazy things people get for Christmas from people when they think you're 'in to' something.
I struggle to find people gifts because I absolutely refuse to buy things that someone won't use. I find wasting money repulsive and just as I don't want to waste money on people I wouldn't want them to waste it on me. This doesn't make one ungrateful, in fact just the opposite.
This thread is pretty funny though. It's fun to see the crazy things people get for Christmas from people when they think you're 'in to' something.
LOL. Disgust and grateful are emotions that usually go together.
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lol. they also got me a gift card to the bike shop/bakery wine bar that used to be affiliated with my club but is now only a bakery and wine bar. The new shop across the street which is now affiliated with the club they clearly did not visit.
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Now I'm confused. I thought you were screwing around -- this is serious? It's really bad karma not to appreciate good thoughts even if they take misdirected forms.
It takes a long time for family and friends to grok this stuff. Over time, mine have come to appreciate that I spend a fortune on my habit and am very particular about certain details. But I appreciate all efforts and even newbies to the game can come up with decent ideas -- one of my young nephews picked out a chamois to wipe down my racing bike so it would be pretty. Score!
Why take it cycling? That looks like a hiking pack to me when a backpack would be overkill. In any case, it can be lent out to people who'd like to use it.
It takes a long time for family and friends to grok this stuff. Over time, mine have come to appreciate that I spend a fortune on my habit and am very particular about certain details. But I appreciate all efforts and even newbies to the game can come up with decent ideas -- one of my young nephews picked out a chamois to wipe down my racing bike so it would be pretty. Score!
Why take it cycling? That looks like a hiking pack to me when a backpack would be overkill. In any case, it can be lent out to people who'd like to use it.
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You doubtlessly come off as a conceited prickly runt to anyone over the age of 40. These are the people who don't seem to realize the worthlessness of justifying the existence of this sort of cheaply made crap unable to hold up to even the most casual of use. Not to mention the probable health benefits of being contact with it. Every year there is a new round of utterly worthless gag gifts that have no intrinsic or artistic value and end up being stashed away to satisfy that persons need for approval. Seeing this came from the parents I would take the trouble to sort this out in person with both of them with frank non-offensive language. If they as adults find your reasoning disposable then make it clear their outlay of presents is at best donor material. That is life and the sooner you level the playing field the better your relationship and respect for each other will mature to the point you can at least communicate.
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I think it would be great if more people simply didn't try to find stuff for me -- I know I'm impossible because I can't find stuff for me. Frankly, an SMS wishing me well or just a bit of friendly time is what I really value.
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I realize that "this sort of cheaply made crap" is not quality stuff, as you define it. However, this old fart would smile, be thankful for the motivation for the gift, and not have to put on an act to hide the disgust on my face. Nor would I have a lecture in my pocket ready to pull out to discuss the "crap."
Not to mention the probable health benefits of being contact with it. Every year there is a new round of utterly worthless gag gifts that have no intrinsic or artistic value and end up being stashed away to satisfy that persons need for approval.
Seeing this came from the parents I would take the trouble to sort this out in person with both of them with frank non-offensive language. If they as adults find your reasoning disposable then make it clear their outlay of presents is at best donor material. That is life and the sooner you level the playing field the better your relationship and respect for each other will mature to the point you can at least communicate.
It isn't too hard to consider a gift as just that - not the article, but the heart behind it. If someone gives me something in love and care, I'm good and I'm blessed.
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So waste each others time with worthless sentiment and dreadful begging and scraping over pointless gifts. Gifts like the ones that are constantly being recalled due to their confluence of poor construction and materials dangerous to humans. Exactly what in the eff I am talking about? Think long and hard about giving a bad gift. The entire holiday is wrought with this little game called re-gifting. If not blatant returning or refusal to play into the initial steps of the game and thus endure the dispiriting spiral. Wise up or don't try to call me on being a wise ass.
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I know your area and regionally I don't think you are as effected by this as other less civil places. Places where people don't know their neighbors much less sit around singing together on a quiet night. Like Christmas, caroling.
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ok, not even going to take the time to quote the responses to my post. The problem here is that people are taking this too seriously. The OP came here with the intent of the rest of us understanding the fredliness of his gift. It's beyond fredly, truth is we all have received a crappy gift at some point in our life. You probably have been a crappy gift giver. Yes, we all know its not about the gift its about the blah blah blah...whatever. If you really cared you wouldn't give crappy gifts. To get on here and rail him for making fun of the gift is just as dumb as him making fun of the gift. Its the internet...its where people go to blow off steam...anonymously. In person I'm sure he acted grateful for the gift and showed no signs of disgust...doesn't mean we all havn't ACTED grateful when we really weren't. We are human, some of us care less about others and what they think, some of us cherish every moment they have from loved ones and cry at every disney movie, its what makes us unique. So before getting your blood pressure up. Stop, breathe, and remember...some of us trollfort3hlolz
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Trolling is a banishable offense and outright admittance of it is like calling the cops to let them know you are all done vandalizing and are sitting on the curb out front waiting for them.
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