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Yeah - just another schmuck I can't keep up with. Teaches music to future felons, I think.
Are you telling me I shouldn't be nice to him? Does he owe you money or something? Let me know - I could send Uncle Bambi, Vinny, and Rocco to go deliver the bars personally.
Are you telling me I shouldn't be nice to him? Does he owe you money or something? Let me know - I could send Uncle Bambi, Vinny, and Rocco to go deliver the bars personally.
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Nobody special. Biker395 was just making sure BigBossMan knew that he has met me in person before, at the High Sierra Fall Century.
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I took it out to the trails around JPL today, and it rides pretty well. I'm getting some chain suck from the middle chainring, though, so I'm going to either flip it around or swap it with the donor bike's to fix that problem, then it should run like new.
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Of the three I listed, Bambi would have been the last one you would have wanted on your doorstep. He's dead now, and the world is a much better place for it.
May he rest in peace.
May he rest in peace.
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Biker395 is Italian. I dare not beat my wife (his neice). I saw what happened to that guy in Godfather.
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Urban.....I have the EXACT same bike....bought it new in 2002 I think. I love that thing. Mine is in a bit better condition that the way you described the one you got, but I had some paint thinner leak on the frame and now going to get it powder Coated at a local shop in tampa.......I'll take before and afters so you can see it. I've never seen anyone that had the same bike.....
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Sounds about right. My research on bikepedia suggests it's a 2000/2001 model. It cleaned up real nice and has been tested on some pretty rugged singletracks now. I don't like how squishy the Magnum fork is, but product reviews show that I'm not alone. It's also a tad heavy... the tubes are not butted, or at least if they are, it's internal only. But I really can't complain when I paid $60 and got it working almost like new for another $40 on top of that.
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I don't like how squishy the Magnum fork is, but product reviews show that I'm not alone.
I've never had a problem with it.......trying to pick a new color though...thinking of DSG metallic..
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I am, however, partial to Specialized as well, and just happened to get lucky. I would have considered almost any reputable brand. Actually, I would have preferred an M2 frame because I believe it's lighter, but beggars can't be choosers.
DSG?
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I chose it because it was $60 and has full Deore 9s components. Even after the $40 in parts and day of labor I put into it, you won't find those specs for that price.
I am, however, partial to Specialized as well, and just happened to get lucky. I would have considered almost any reputable brand. Actually, I would have preferred an M2 frame because I believe it's lighter, but beggars can't be choosers.
Yeah, it's not a problem except when I get out of the saddle. Then it's a pogo stick unless I watch my form like crazy.
DSG?
I am, however, partial to Specialized as well, and just happened to get lucky. I would have considered almost any reputable brand. Actually, I would have preferred an M2 frame because I believe it's lighter, but beggars can't be choosers.
Yeah, it's not a problem except when I get out of the saddle. Then it's a pogo stick unless I watch my form like crazy.
DSG?
I have a 2002 Diamondback Response with a Rockshock Judy TT, the Judy TT doesn't pogo at all under my 190lbs. Maybe you should look for another parts bike, with your luck you probably can find a $500 fork for $15.
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Oh, I see. I chose to build up the Specialized mainly because it fit me better. I should really be on a 17 or 18, but because of my long torso it's better to go large than to go small. The Specialized is a 19 and the Trek is a 16.5. Also, the Specialized needed less work to clean up.
The Trek has a Judy TT, but I still liked the Manitou better. Although the Judy doesn't pogo, it feels mushier than I liked, and I couldn't find a dampening adjustment. But really, I want to keep it with the Manitou because it matches the frame
And yes, with my pleasure in fixing up bikes and my eye for quality, I'm tempted to see if I could make money buying neglected bikes, fixing them, and then selling them. I could finish the Trek with 9s Deore shifters, RD, and cassette for less than $200 and then probably sell it for $300.
The Trek has a Judy TT, but I still liked the Manitou better. Although the Judy doesn't pogo, it feels mushier than I liked, and I couldn't find a dampening adjustment. But really, I want to keep it with the Manitou because it matches the frame

And yes, with my pleasure in fixing up bikes and my eye for quality, I'm tempted to see if I could make money buying neglected bikes, fixing them, and then selling them. I could finish the Trek with 9s Deore shifters, RD, and cassette for less than $200 and then probably sell it for $300.
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Oh, I see. I chose to build up the Specialized mainly because it fit me better. I should really be on a 17 or 18, but because of my long torso it's better to go large than to go small. The Specialized is a 19 and the Trek is a 16.5. Also, the Specialized needed less work to clean up.
The Trek has a Judy TT, but I still liked the Manitou better. Although the Judy doesn't pogo, it feels mushier than I liked, and I couldn't find a dampening adjustment. But really, I want to keep it with the Manitou because it matches the frame
And yes, with my pleasure in fixing up bikes and my eye for quality, I'm tempted to see if I could make money buying neglected bikes, fixing them, and then selling them. I could finish the Trek with 9s Deore shifters, RD, and cassette for less than $200 and then probably sell it for $300.
The Trek has a Judy TT, but I still liked the Manitou better. Although the Judy doesn't pogo, it feels mushier than I liked, and I couldn't find a dampening adjustment. But really, I want to keep it with the Manitou because it matches the frame

And yes, with my pleasure in fixing up bikes and my eye for quality, I'm tempted to see if I could make money buying neglected bikes, fixing them, and then selling them. I could finish the Trek with 9s Deore shifters, RD, and cassette for less than $200 and then probably sell it for $300.
Just kidding, only my Specialized Sirrus is color coordinated the poor Diamondback is a hodge podge. It is mean & ugly like the helicopters that I fly.
If you can give us an update on the bike builds. Stupid question - it there a site on BF for people to share their bike builds from start to finish? I personally would find that fascinating, being new to the sport I could learn a lot from everyone's experience. Sorry about changing the subject...
Your bike is very sharp, I am thinking about having the Diamondback’s frame stripped & painted a metallic orange (favorite color).
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I admit, I am a roadie (actually trackie) by nature, and an overly anal retentive one at that. Here's my current road bike, with matching saddle and bar tape... finished with blue electrical tape to boot. I was recently trying to convince myself to use aluminum nipples on an upcoming wheel build so I can make them blue.

Although not the determining factor to buy it, the team I was racing with at the time had a kit that went well with it as well.

Here's the road bike I built up in the mid 90's. I had the rims, headset races, seatpost, and cranks CUSTOM anodized because nobody offered them in a medium blue (only turquoise). I even found yellow tires and bottles to coordinate with the stickers, saddle, and bar tape.

The fact that the team I wound up on that season had a yellow and blue jersey was also an unintended bonus.

This is the mountain bike I rode in the mid 90's. Notice the turquoise bar ends, seatpost, bottle cages, brake calipers, and skewers which conveniently match the stickers on the fork. I also later added a turquiose Rollamajig... just because it was turquoise. Oh yeah, I wore that jersey for the race simply because it kind of matched.

I later had to retire the frame (non replaceable derailleur hanger + too many right side falls) and put the drivetrain on what used to be my downhill bike. Since that bike required a different size front derailleur clamp and seatpost, and I needed new cranks and bottom bracket anyway, I ended up with every shade or gray on the bike, as well as bits of black, red, yellow, and turquoise. It looked funny, but it rode just fine.
I also have a soft spot for Celeste green.

By the way, every bike I have owned since 1994 has been built up or highly altered by me. The GT and Balance above were take-off framesets I bought at my team sponsor shop, and the Tsunami was used off of Ebay with the saddle and headset. I saved a bunch of money by shopping around and using whatever parts I could get a deal on... and then spending some of the money I saved on the color-coordinating bling parts
I'm not sure about the mountain bike section, but the road forum has a thread dedicated to bikes people have built up themselves. They also have a thread for craigslist and ebay finds.

Although not the determining factor to buy it, the team I was racing with at the time had a kit that went well with it as well.

Here's the road bike I built up in the mid 90's. I had the rims, headset races, seatpost, and cranks CUSTOM anodized because nobody offered them in a medium blue (only turquoise). I even found yellow tires and bottles to coordinate with the stickers, saddle, and bar tape.

The fact that the team I wound up on that season had a yellow and blue jersey was also an unintended bonus.

This is the mountain bike I rode in the mid 90's. Notice the turquoise bar ends, seatpost, bottle cages, brake calipers, and skewers which conveniently match the stickers on the fork. I also later added a turquiose Rollamajig... just because it was turquoise. Oh yeah, I wore that jersey for the race simply because it kind of matched.

I later had to retire the frame (non replaceable derailleur hanger + too many right side falls) and put the drivetrain on what used to be my downhill bike. Since that bike required a different size front derailleur clamp and seatpost, and I needed new cranks and bottom bracket anyway, I ended up with every shade or gray on the bike, as well as bits of black, red, yellow, and turquoise. It looked funny, but it rode just fine.
I also have a soft spot for Celeste green.

By the way, every bike I have owned since 1994 has been built up or highly altered by me. The GT and Balance above were take-off framesets I bought at my team sponsor shop, and the Tsunami was used off of Ebay with the saddle and headset. I saved a bunch of money by shopping around and using whatever parts I could get a deal on... and then spending some of the money I saved on the color-coordinating bling parts

I'm not sure about the mountain bike section, but the road forum has a thread dedicated to bikes people have built up themselves. They also have a thread for craigslist and ebay finds.
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Hey Urbanknight,
This is just a guess, but is turquoise your favorite color?
All of the bikes look great and have a common turquoise theme. I did’t know that GT made road bikes in the 90’s it is a really good looking bike, especially the seat stays. What type of steel tubing was on the GT?
I like the ride of a steel road bikes a lot the Specialized Sirrus is very smooth & seems to spring up a hill. The only aluminum road bike I owned was a Cannondale ST400 that I traded to get the Sirrus. The ST400 was a little bit of a harsh ride, you felt every bump & pebble. I am looking for a new bike, I have only purchased one new bike in my life & I am going to be 47. So, I am going to treat myself to a new bike, I am considering the Motobecane Immortal Pro (CF bike). I know BD is a dislikes on BF, but it seems like a good deal. A Cannondale Synapse 5 & Specialized Allez Elite are on the final list, I don’t know yet. Sorry about the non sequitur…the road section is mild this Friday.
You are one lucky guy to have so many really cool bikes, do you still have some of the old race bikes? What is your favorite material for a bike frame?
This is just a guess, but is turquoise your favorite color?
All of the bikes look great and have a common turquoise theme. I did’t know that GT made road bikes in the 90’s it is a really good looking bike, especially the seat stays. What type of steel tubing was on the GT? I like the ride of a steel road bikes a lot the Specialized Sirrus is very smooth & seems to spring up a hill. The only aluminum road bike I owned was a Cannondale ST400 that I traded to get the Sirrus. The ST400 was a little bit of a harsh ride, you felt every bump & pebble. I am looking for a new bike, I have only purchased one new bike in my life & I am going to be 47. So, I am going to treat myself to a new bike, I am considering the Motobecane Immortal Pro (CF bike). I know BD is a dislikes on BF, but it seems like a good deal. A Cannondale Synapse 5 & Specialized Allez Elite are on the final list, I don’t know yet. Sorry about the non sequitur…the road section is mild this Friday.
You are one lucky guy to have so many really cool bikes, do you still have some of the old race bikes? What is your favorite material for a bike frame?
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Actually, my favorite color is blue, but turquoise is pretty close 
That GT was aluminum. I actually wanted the steel version of the same frame (some type of Reynolds I think, and lighter than the aluminum) but the retail was over $800 (I think $600-700 for aluminum) and I got the aluminum one on clearance for $150.
I only own two bikes now - the Tsunami and the Specialized. Despite my love for them, I only see the need for one bike for each purpose at a time. The highest number of bikes ever in my possession was 4:
- Road bike
- Track bike
- Mountain bike
- Downhill mountain bike
At that time, my brother owned 3 bikes, my dad 2, and my mom 2. We had quite a stable!
Nothing wrong with Bikesdirect bikes, especially if you are competent enough to assemble and maintain them yourself. I disagree with their business model and advertising tactics, but there's nothing immoral or illegal about them.
I suppose I'd have to favor titanium for road bikes. It's reasonably light, has a great ride quality, and doesn't rust. I have come to realize, however, that there's more to a bike's characteristics than the material. The quality of that material, the quality of assembly, and the quality of design are all major contributors.

That GT was aluminum. I actually wanted the steel version of the same frame (some type of Reynolds I think, and lighter than the aluminum) but the retail was over $800 (I think $600-700 for aluminum) and I got the aluminum one on clearance for $150.
I only own two bikes now - the Tsunami and the Specialized. Despite my love for them, I only see the need for one bike for each purpose at a time. The highest number of bikes ever in my possession was 4:
- Road bike
- Track bike
- Mountain bike
- Downhill mountain bike
At that time, my brother owned 3 bikes, my dad 2, and my mom 2. We had quite a stable!
Nothing wrong with Bikesdirect bikes, especially if you are competent enough to assemble and maintain them yourself. I disagree with their business model and advertising tactics, but there's nothing immoral or illegal about them.
I suppose I'd have to favor titanium for road bikes. It's reasonably light, has a great ride quality, and doesn't rust. I have come to realize, however, that there's more to a bike's characteristics than the material. The quality of that material, the quality of assembly, and the quality of design are all major contributors.
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The GT's tubes look like steel tubing the diameter seems small for AL.
I have two bikes, my wife can't understand why I want another. I can't get my family to ride with me, the boys want to drive the car or go skateboarding (20 & 16 years old), my wife has no interest and my daughter (13) doesn't want to ride further than 6 miles. I need to get them new bikes so they want to ride, uh.
I need a bike that is tough, I put my bikes on a moving blanket pad in the back of the truck (the truck has a topper to keep the bikes out of the weather). Oh, I wasn't saying the BD is immoral I am looking at the Immortal Pro CF bike.
I have two bikes, my wife can't understand why I want another. I can't get my family to ride with me, the boys want to drive the car or go skateboarding (20 & 16 years old), my wife has no interest and my daughter (13) doesn't want to ride further than 6 miles. I need to get them new bikes so they want to ride, uh.
I need a bike that is tough, I put my bikes on a moving blanket pad in the back of the truck (the truck has a topper to keep the bikes out of the weather). Oh, I wasn't saying the BD is immoral I am looking at the Immortal Pro CF bike.
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I got that. I was just stating my .02 about how so many people on here hate BD with such a passion.
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Sorry, I must have misread or not understood your .02. I still don't get the hate for BD, it seems that there are only a couple of manufactures in China & Taiwan that make all of the bike brands. The same plant that makes Motobecane probably makes several famous brands that are not hated. I don't understand all the passions over a sticker on the tubes.
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Urban.......the DSG is a dark metallic grey.......my buddy had this color on his lightning and I just loved it.......Mine was black, but I always loved that color, so I think I may have it done like that.....the jury is still out though...
Here is a pic of what the truck looks like...
Here is a pic of what the truck looks like...
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I drove 50 min to drop the donor bike and tools off at my brother's place so he could build it up after he woke up, and he decided he doesn't want it. So it, and the parts, are going on craigslist or ebay soon.
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