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What exactly is a "level saddle?"

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Old 05-15-16 | 08:20 AM
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I've always wondered this, what exactly is the reason for having a level seat?
Because in the majority of situations it results in the most comfortable setup.
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Old 05-15-16 | 09:29 AM
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Because in the majority of situations it results in the most comfortable setup.
For competitive cyclists saddle level was part of Step #3 of 7 in a "baseline fit" for new riders on the track or road.
Why? It works for the great majority of properly fitted and conditioned riders, it's UCI legal and it's the known baseline to adjust from.

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Hi guys, I cleaned up the unrelated burrito posts. It was more burrito in here than answering the question.
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Old 05-15-16 | 11:26 AM
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That's unfortunate.
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Old 05-15-16 | 11:52 AM
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I've been wondering about this recently myself. I have one bike that's been driving me crazy for a while. What looks eyeball level is me always sliding forward off the saddle over time. What sure feels like only one detent higher is definitely nose up in appearance, but I stay on without frequently sliding myself back. I've decided to live with what feels right vs looks right.
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Old 05-15-16 | 11:54 AM
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That's unfortunate.
If it makes you feel better, my saddles, or is that seats, are almost level and you can PM me a pick of the almond and squid burrito you make tomorrow, you sick puppet. Are puppets or clowns scarier???
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Old 05-15-16 | 11:57 AM
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I've been wondering about this recently myself. I have one bike that's been driving me crazy for a while. What looks eyeball level is me always sliding forward off the saddle over time. What sure feels like only one detent higher is definitely nose up in appearance, but I stay on without frequently sliding myself back. I've decided to live with what feels right vs looks right.
live on the wild side, break, or brake, the rules, and keep riding your bike with your saddle in a position that works for you. Level is a starting point, way off level is weird, but somewhere in there is comfort.
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Old 05-15-16 | 11:59 AM
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I've always wondered this, what exactly is the reason for having a level seat?
The exact reason is that it is the only saddle position you can post a picture of in a forum like this without negative feedback.

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Old 05-17-16 | 02:09 PM
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And valve caps.
I know wheel reflectors are safe...they still bug me though. Like the huge plastic plate that usually sits between a wheel/cassette.

My bike is jackass right now too. I need a more level stem with my risers. The angled downward Jaguar + risers = standard flat bar height.
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Old 05-18-16 | 08:24 PM
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Ok, I think I've invented a new bicycle saddleseat leveling system. If the rice in the burrito slides forward, you need to angle it upwards and vice versa. If all the rice pools in the middle then you have yourself a level saddle and will achieve many likes on instagram.

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Old 05-18-16 | 11:32 PM
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Can I find my correct bar angle using this method as well? How many burritos for proper saddle height?
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Old 05-19-16 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Huffandstuff
Ok, I think I've invented a new bicycle saddleseat leveling system. If the rice in the burrito slides forward, you need to angle it upwards and vice versa. If all the rice pools in the middle then you have yourself a level saddle and will achieve many likes on instagram.
Hogwash. Beans are heavier than rice. It would be the beans that slide forward or back.
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Old 05-19-16 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Regulatori
Like the huge plastic plate that usually sits between a wheel/cassette.
The correct term is "dork disk".
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Old 05-19-16 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau
Can I find my correct bar angle using this method as well? How many burritos for proper saddle height?
I believe the burrito to saddle height ratio is 2 for French fot, 3 for performance and 4 for the eddy fit.

You will need a 6 pack of beer to determine proper bar angle, you should be able to hang the 6 pack from the drops without them sliding in either direction. Pro move is to buy 2 6packs so your bars don't twist when attempting to align your angle.
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Old 05-19-16 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Regulatori
I need a more level stem with my risers. The angled downward Jaguar + risers = standard flat bar height.
It seems you care much more about what your bike looks like than how it rides. You realize that getting a level stem will raise your hand position considerably, right?

Just ride the damn thing. Is it comfortable? Keep riding it the way it is. If it's not comfortable make changes based on your needs, not what the internet says looks cool.
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Old 05-19-16 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Huffandstuff
Ok, I think I've invented a new bicycle saddleseat leveling system. If the rice in the burrito slides forward, you need to angle it upwards and vice versa. If all the rice pools in the middle then you have yourself a level saddle and will achieve many likes on instagram.
This post is multi-levels of WIN!
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Old 05-19-16 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Hogwash. Beans are heavier than rice. It would be the beans that slide forward or back.
I think the burrito filling's angle of repose is more critical than it's weight.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_of_repose

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This post is multi-levels of WIN!
100% Agreed.
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Old 05-19-16 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
It seems you care much more about what your bike looks like than how it rides. You realize that getting a level stem will raise your hand position considerably, right?

Just ride the damn thing. Is it comfortable? Keep riding it the way it is. If it's not comfortable make changes based on your needs, not what the internet says looks cool.
I pinched a nerve in my hand doing something completely different and noticed it's starting to go numb now on rides (ring and pinkie finger go numb and stay numb hours after the ride). If I max out the height of my jaguar stem, it takes a little pressure off my hands and I notice the difference immediately but I would like to go a little higher...hence a more flatter stem to begin with.

If I only cared about looks, I would keep the Jaguar...the Cinelli 2A and Jaguar are two of the best looking quill stems.
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Old 05-19-16 | 03:44 PM
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The correct term is "dork disk".
I prefer "Nerd Rotor"
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Swoopy saddle means the burrito will probably all gravitate towards the center, and the rice will all fall out of the cutout
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Swoopy saddle means the burrito will probably all gravitate towards the center, and the rice will all fall out of the cutout

Is your garage door even level bro?
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Adjust your saddle based on your ass not someone else's eye's
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