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#376
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From: Denver, Colorado
Bikes: Cinelli Mash Histogram, Raleigh Tokul 3, All-City Macho Man
What kind of GXP BB do you guys run? Put about 1500 miles on the stock GXP BB that came with my S300s and it's started to click when out of the saddle or under heavy load. I've cleaned/re-greased it and made sure everything is tightened down. I know a lot of folks move to square taper cranksets because of similar issues. But for those of you that do run GXP, is it worth upgrading to a nicer Hope/Chris King BB or will I have the same issues based on the GXP design? I'm fine with buying a new cheap BB every 1.5k miles or so, just didn't know if theres a permanent solution other than going with a square taper solution.
#377
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From: Gainesville, FL
Bikes: 2015 Aventon Diamond
What kind of GXP BB do you guys run? Put about 1500 miles on the stock GXP BB that came with my S300s and it's started to click when out of the saddle or under heavy load. I've cleaned/re-greased it and made sure everything is tightened down. I know a lot of folks move to square taper cranksets because of similar issues. But for those of you that do run GXP, is it worth upgrading to a nicer Hope/Chris King BB or will I have the same issues based on the GXP design? I'm fine with buying a new cheap BB every 1.5k miles or so, just didn't know if theres a permanent solution other than going with a square taper solution.
#378
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From: Denver, Colorado
Bikes: Cinelli Mash Histogram, Raleigh Tokul 3, All-City Macho Man
My S300's clicked as well and it was loose chainring bolts. Tightenwd down and all good. I swapped the stock BB for the SRAM team GXP and it has been going for 2,000+ miles with no issues at all. I bought it from LBS for around $30, but Im sure you can find cheaper. EBay has been known to have ceramic gxp bb's for cheap as well.
#379
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From: Gainesville, FL
Bikes: 2015 Aventon Diamond
What are these machined holes around the spoke holes for? This is a brand new front wheel from Aventon that I flatted out on a 50 mile ride with and noticed that the rim strip is not covering these smaller holes. They are in about 3 places around the rim. They are almost set too wide on the rim for a rim strip to fully cover, without interfering with the bead set.









#380
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From: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Odds are they're related to production than anything about the finished product.
For example, anodizing rims requires submersion in baths of various chemicals, Air vent and drain holes are necessary if the rim is anodized after being completed but before drilling, or if the rim has corner channels that are separate from drilled area, as is common on many single wall rims with pinned construction.
Multiple drain holes are often drilled to speed draining, or because a single hole can get air bound and not drain properly.
Edit, I didn't see a clear picture when I posted earlier. Looking again, there's another possibility. Those rims are joined with pins in the channels along the outer edges. So, one purpose for the holes is as a stop for the pin, to ensure that it doesn't get pushed into one side rather than evenly engage both sides. Also, since the pin is blocking the channel added holes are needed for draining if the rim is anodized after being formed.
For example, anodizing rims requires submersion in baths of various chemicals, Air vent and drain holes are necessary if the rim is anodized after being completed but before drilling, or if the rim has corner channels that are separate from drilled area, as is common on many single wall rims with pinned construction.
Multiple drain holes are often drilled to speed draining, or because a single hole can get air bound and not drain properly.
Edit, I didn't see a clear picture when I posted earlier. Looking again, there's another possibility. Those rims are joined with pins in the channels along the outer edges. So, one purpose for the holes is as a stop for the pin, to ensure that it doesn't get pushed into one side rather than evenly engage both sides. Also, since the pin is blocking the channel added holes are needed for draining if the rim is anodized after being formed.
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#381
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From: Minas Ithil
Here's a newb question. Why are there so many fixed gear frames which are obviously meant for the street and not the velodrome not produced with two bottle mount braze ons? And why, on the frames that have one set of braze ons, is it usually mounted on the seat tube and not the down tube?
I've been browsing for a possible future build. My requirements are a quality butted steel tubeset with classic straight TT geometry, two bottle mounts and preferably top tube cable guides since I like to mount frame pumps and the clamp on mounts will probably hit it. I've concluded that a frame that also has a pump peg will never materialize. Not talking about a $2000 custom frame but one that is reasonably priced like a Wabi, Surly, ect.
I've been browsing for a possible future build. My requirements are a quality butted steel tubeset with classic straight TT geometry, two bottle mounts and preferably top tube cable guides since I like to mount frame pumps and the clamp on mounts will probably hit it. I've concluded that a frame that also has a pump peg will never materialize. Not talking about a $2000 custom frame but one that is reasonably priced like a Wabi, Surly, ect.
#382
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Except for the pump peg, the Kilo WT frame meets your requirements, except for the smallest size that has a sloping top tube. I have one and it makes for a great long distance SSFG touring bike.
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#383
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From: Minas Ithil
Yeah, I like the Kilo WT. I almost bought one. I don't really like the dropouts, they're kind of cheap looking. The Wabi Classic would be perfect if it had brake cable guides. Perhaps I could glue small pieces of foam on my frame pump where it would contact the clamp on guides.
#384
Yeah, I like the Kilo WT. I almost bought one. I don't really like the dropouts, they're kind of cheap looking. The Wabi Classic would be perfect if it had brake cable guides. Perhaps I could glue small pieces of foam on my frame pump where it would contact the clamp on guides.
I'd be concerned that the clip on units might get pushed around in use and scratch my paint. The screw down clips aren't going to move.
https://wabicycles.com/collections/c...cable-clip-set
https://wabicycles.com/collections/c...cable-clip-set
#385
Here's a newb question. Why are there so many fixed gear frames which are obviously meant for the street and not the velodrome not produced with two bottle mount braze ons? And why, on the frames that have one set of braze ons, is it usually mounted on the seat tube and not the down tube?
I've been browsing for a possible future build. My requirements are a quality butted steel tubeset with classic straight TT geometry, two bottle mounts and preferably top tube cable guides since I like to mount frame pumps and the clamp on mounts will probably hit it. I've concluded that a frame that also has a pump peg will never materialize. Not talking about a $2000 custom frame but one that is reasonably priced like a Wabi, Surly, ect.
I've been browsing for a possible future build. My requirements are a quality butted steel tubeset with classic straight TT geometry, two bottle mounts and preferably top tube cable guides since I like to mount frame pumps and the clamp on mounts will probably hit it. I've concluded that a frame that also has a pump peg will never materialize. Not talking about a $2000 custom frame but one that is reasonably priced like a Wabi, Surly, ect.
https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-frameset
#387
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From: Minas Ithil
Sloping TT, but has cable stops and the pump peg.
https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-frameset
https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-frameset
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#388
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From: Vermont
Bikes: Tanglefoot Hardtack, Riv Sam Hillborne, a Purple Waterford
#391
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From: Appleton WI
Bikes: Several, mostly not name brands.
Chances are it is a standard thread. Take the one you have to a hardware store and find a bolt whose thread matches and find a suitable washer. Get them in stainless steel if possible. If it doesn't exactly match the other bolt, buy two so they match if that's important to you.
#392
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From: Vermont
Bikes: Tanglefoot Hardtack, Riv Sam Hillborne, a Purple Waterford
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From: Ciudad de Vacas, Tejas
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I took the liberty to correct your spelling.
#395
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Is SS a young person's only game?
I'm starting to get sharp knee pains. I roding Single Speed for many years...from MTB to fixie roadbike . Then, I took a few years off, but 2 years ago, I came back with a vengence...but starting last year, started suffering from knee problem for no reason. Maybe aging? I can still ride all day...just can't go 100% like I used to. I just ride slow and steady...but hills and wind kills my knee. Luckily, pretty flat here. But windy around this time of year.
I often dream of doing the MS150 in Austin with a SS or fixie. But realizing it's probably not going to happen.
Is it time to give up SS?
I'm starting to get sharp knee pains. I roding Single Speed for many years...from MTB to fixie roadbike . Then, I took a few years off, but 2 years ago, I came back with a vengence...but starting last year, started suffering from knee problem for no reason. Maybe aging? I can still ride all day...just can't go 100% like I used to. I just ride slow and steady...but hills and wind kills my knee. Luckily, pretty flat here. But windy around this time of year.
I often dream of doing the MS150 in Austin with a SS or fixie. But realizing it's probably not going to happen.
Is it time to give up SS?
Have you checked your saddle height and fore/aft position on the saddle? Bike fit can be a culprit for knee pain too.
Also, over-riding can contribute too. How often do you ride ss, and how many miles?
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#396
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Is SS a young person's only game?
I'm starting to get sharp knee pains. I roding Single Speed for many years...from MTB to fixie roadbike . Then, I took a few years off, but 2 years ago, I came back with a vengence...but starting last year, started suffering from knee problem for no reason. Maybe aging? I can still ride all day...just can't go 100% like I used to. I just ride slow and steady...but hills and wind kills my knee. Luckily, pretty flat here. But windy around this time of year.
I often dream of doing the MS150 in Austin with a SS or fixie. But realizing it's probably not going to happen.
Is it time to give up SS?
I'm starting to get sharp knee pains. I roding Single Speed for many years...from MTB to fixie roadbike . Then, I took a few years off, but 2 years ago, I came back with a vengence...but starting last year, started suffering from knee problem for no reason. Maybe aging? I can still ride all day...just can't go 100% like I used to. I just ride slow and steady...but hills and wind kills my knee. Luckily, pretty flat here. But windy around this time of year.
I often dream of doing the MS150 in Austin with a SS or fixie. But realizing it's probably not going to happen.
Is it time to give up SS?
Nope, don't do it! Honestly, it has nothing to do with your age and more to do with what's specifically going on with your knees. You can have a 20 year old with cartilage/tendon/meniscus problems that could cause them great pain if riding fixed as well. Hell, I'll be 54 and still do all my Centuries/Brevets fixed in a 54x16 gear.* When I'm in shape I can flip my wheel on calm days and run a 54x14. Knees don't give a shout too much.
*it's flat with only rollers here
#397
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From: Appleton WI
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If your knees are giving you problems, look to shorter crank arms and lower gears. There's no age barrier to FG/SS riding if you use the right equipment.
#398
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From: Ontario
Bikes: Wheeler custom fixed gear
Hey y'all just wondering if I could ask for some advice. I've been toying with the idea of buying something that isn't a 40 year old gas pipe boat anchor (not that I don't love my boat anchors lol). I came across a custom built conversion for sale and I don't know enough about it to decide if it's worth it. It might be a size to big for me but i'm willing to go try it out if it's a good deal. honestly the only thing that attracted me is the adorable star paint job that I assume is done well because the poster says it's a "400 dollar custom paint job". They say it's a Wheeler frame from the 80s with the drop outs changed for track ends. If this bike is what they say it is shouldn't they be asking much more? here is the add for refrence: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-road-bike/gu...xie/1321456384 thanks!
#399
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From: PHL
Bikes: Litespeed Catalyst, IRO Rob Roy, All City Big Block
Hey y'all just wondering if I could ask for some advice. I've been toying with the idea of buying something that isn't a 40 year old gas pipe boat anchor (not that I don't love my boat anchors lol). I came across a custom built conversion for sale and I don't know enough about it to decide if it's worth it. It might be a size to big for me but i'm willing to go try it out if it's a good deal. honestly the only thing that attracted me is the adorable star paint job that I assume is done well because the poster says it's a "400 dollar custom paint job". They say it's a Wheeler frame from the 80s with the drop outs changed for track ends. If this bike is what they say it is shouldn't they be asking much more? here is the add for refrence: https://www.kijiji.ca/v-road-bike/gu...xie/1321456384 thanks! 





