I have a 650 C Paramount frame coming from Ebay (OK, OK, but it was a good deal...). Does anyone have any experience with getting a set of 650 C fixed gear wheels? I know I could custom order or build myself from new parts, but am looking for other options--what i would prefer is a flip flop hub with one freewheel side..OK, I know that's not pure. Anyone else solved this problem for me?

That should be a really nice build.

But, you are pretty much stuck with a wheelbuild. 650c fixed wheels are damn rare. Be ready for a bike that takes off like a rocket from a start.

right. small wheels rock. I want a 650B track bike some day.

that does sound like fun

the fuji track has 650c wheels
wierd
https://fujibikes.com/2006/bikes.asp?id=140

thats the 43cm version

oh damn
i guess thats why it looks so damn small

Hey, thanks, I'll focus on finding some reasonable parts to build from--maybe I could lace a new hub to a used wheelset. Drop or bullhorn?

Occasionally you see wheelsets on Ebay but I think you're better off getting some wheels built. Velocity make a lot of their rims in 650c. Another option is that when I needed rims I often found them for dirt cheap at places like Nashbar etc.

Worth looking around.

You can often find some very dope TT/aero front wheels for cheap (in 650c sizes) second hand and anywhere with Triathalon stuff should have rims, tires and tubes for you.

I'm 6'1" and love my 650C track bike(s). If you raced BMX as a kid, and or, enjoy knee scraping, moto GP gymnastics when sticking a crotch-rocket into an apex (I mostly do that for the attention), then you ought to treat yourself to a 650C FG test ride. High-Performance best describes my 650C machines. Nothing else out there can even comes close - vaporizing preconceived notions to limitation.

It doesn't take an engineering genius to realize the 650C advantage when navigating fluid urban/metro environments. My steel 650C/urban FG rolls on Phil Wood HF track hubs, laced (heavy gauge, triple butted spokes) around Velocity DVs (stiff mister), wrapped in Michelin Pro slicks. Man-0-man this baby accelerates and g-turns with surgical precision.

Oh yeah, it's f#@king faster than $#hit too! Liken to a small sports car vs a sedan, the 650C's tighter geometry markably shortens the drivetrain, reducing flex/energy waste to harness more power to the wheel. In addition, they are inherently superior, when it comes to handling. Responding to rapid commands quickly, diversely, and confidently. Face it, critical situations are best survived by quick acceleration and solid handling - not the brakes (like we FGs even have that option).

Perhaps the ultimate solution for those seeking performance rather than parading an NJS float. Besides, your effort, time, and earned income spent chasing NJS stamps isn't a sport. It's not even an activity. Face it, it's just collecting, and that's a hobby. Yup, a hobby. Think about it. Then decide what really counts, what is that defines you - riding the hell out of your non-trendy FG. That's your first priority. Hell, you can collect scars while your at it.

lets see this bike of yours gravityhurts

So what frames are out there for 650 wheels? Are there actual track frames, or is it triathalon stuff?

Done!

I'll snap one off tomorrow under the sun.

Given the relatively limited production of standard track bikes only magnifies the efforts to discover a 650C track bike.

having said that, there's a sweet 650C track frameset at this time on ebay with just under 6 hrs.

Go knock yourself out.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1

BTW----BB, you beat me on this Paramount. I mean, a quality steel lugged, frameset with a killer coat of paint and a beefy carbon straight blade fork is hard to beat.

The Particulars (as presented in my usual camp advertising vernacular):

This one-of-a-kind 650C track bike was specifically created to suit the needs of a well respected bike courier in San Francisco by Zic Zac designs. An unconventional bicycle with abilities that are best realized within an urban environment. The Zic Zac's inherent ability to negotiate metro congestion with surgical precision is intoxicating.

This 56cm ctc frameset was hand made to exacting measures utilizing Dedacciai Zero Uno steel tubing and finished in vintage orange. A-list components include: a Cinelli 2A track quill, a Cinelli bull-horn, a Mavic 165/144BCD crankset (Mavic headset and seatpost arriving soon), a set of Phil Wood HF track hubs, heavy gauge spokes (radial laced front), a set of 650C Velocity rims (32H/clincher), a set of Michelin Pro slicks, and a Selle Italia Flite Ti saddle.

Zic Zac's innovate culture and dedication to simplistic engineering is unique. A fresh alternative for those seeking relief from cycling cookie-cutter industry.

The ultimate solution for concrete arenas.


*Note:

Okay, just hold on now, there's a simple explanation for "this." Look, I plan on getting up early for a regular mass ride tomorrow. The mostly elite group are beginning to warm up to the idea of a fg buzzing around. I'm sure my world class abilities contribute as well-LOL. However, at this time they made it quite clear that fg with brake(s) are welcomed; more like tolerated. So, if it takes me two minutes to attach my "ticket in" - then so be it.

Hence, the sacrilegious representation clearly depicted in this photo. I ask that you understand this action for what it is - appeasement.

I'm feeling dirty and cheap, like a common wh@re...

...I have to go and shower now.

brain-rotting newb question here - what would the result be if you tried to put smaller wheels on a standard frame?

Hey, a Fuji Pro Track 650C track bike (raced by Jamie C) was on eBay last week.

the kogswell model m is designed for 26". currently building it up for my SO.

here's a pic of this sweet 650 sycip from the sf bike film fest art opening.

Not too sure. Have put a 650c in the front. Handling is twitchier which is both good and bad at times. But really didn't notice a lot of other difference apart from the obvious lower front end. Oh and your brake, if you have one, obviously won't reach.

Not too sure you could run a 650c in the back as you'd compromise your BB clearance, but never tried it. It would definitely be interesting to borrow a set and see what the difference really would be. I think a lot would depend on the frame.