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Old 10-10-05 | 11:27 PM
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No, I'm not getting attacked by a Miyata . . . here's the deal...

Description - "A good condition road bike for racing with Shimano 600 deraileurs in front and back, 24.5" chromolly frame for a tall person. The height from ground to top bar is 34.5". -$150 "

I've been looking for a used frame, but I've had trouble finding one that would fit me (I'm 6'3") . My frame size is around 60.

Are the dropouts fixie compatiable?
Will this frame fit me?
Does it look like a decent bike for the money?
You guys/gals know the drill, just help me out with your input


I attached the only 3 pictures I have to look at. I'm going to call the guy tomorrow.

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Old 10-11-05 | 12:39 AM
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Test ride it. Its good for ss/fix conversion, the dropouts are right. $150 is a bit steep though, unless its in SUPER shape.
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Old 10-11-05 | 12:52 AM
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what's the model #? Miyata made some really really really nice frames back in the day. Custom drawn tubing and all. the 600 components indicate that it was at least an upper-midrance bike back in the day. maybe a nine-twelve. or a seven-twelve?

should fit you. if you knock a couple bucks off the pice then get it.

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Old 10-11-05 | 08:02 AM
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The seven twelves are super nice, I rode my friend's for a while, super buttery ride. Mmmm.
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Old 10-11-05 | 08:38 AM
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It's not that large. 25" was a common size bike that many mfgs offered and 25.5" (Schwinn, Trek, Raleigh, and Panasonic even made a 27") was not hard to find either.
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Old 10-11-05 | 08:41 AM
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I'll get back to You guys with the model # and anything else I can find out about the bike. Thanks so far.
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Old 10-11-05 | 11:16 AM
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Hey, that's absolutely identical to my Miyata (which is a 610)... and, while I have no advice on the price, will say that it is a sweet ride. I'm 6'2", and fits me just great. I believe it's 4130 tripple-butted throughout.

Here are some pictures from several years ago, in its first of many incarnations. PM me if you'd like any details...

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Old 10-11-05 | 11:24 AM
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Miyatas rock, I have two-- a 916 fixed conversion and a Team from '86 with all campy stuff. The tubing is really, really light compared to many similar steel bikes from the era, despite that there's no "renoylds number" denoting high quality.
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Old 10-11-05 | 11:26 AM
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i wouldn't get rid of those 600 components.

as far as the price goes, in philly i would say that is good. they sell bikes with 1 piece steel cranks for $150
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Old 10-11-05 | 07:26 PM
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Nice pics Joe Loco

I called the guy and he said it was a "12(twelve) -something" he wasn't sure because he was at work and the bike was at his house. But he did state is was surprisingly light. And that the frame was is really good shape. I'm going to try to get a look at it on Wed.

Right now I'm running the numbers to see what would be cheaper/better: Getting a off the shelf Pista or building this Miyata up to my own specs. I'm kinda leaning towards building up this Miyata, since I figure that it'll be cheaper in the long run and I'll plain out be happier with it overall; I tend to fall in Love with my bikes.
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Old 10-11-05 | 07:38 PM
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Oh BTW, would this be a rather hassle free bike to convert. I have a really trusted LBS, but I'm curious if there are any problems I should be aware of ahead of time.
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Old 10-11-05 | 07:54 PM
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it sounds like it's a 912, and if it is, it's a steal at $150, those frames are awesome. i'm pretty sure they used high-end i****awa tubing, and that olld 600 stuff is quality.
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Old 10-11-05 | 07:58 PM
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Would i be able to use the 600 crank for my fixie? (after taking off the unused front gears)
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Old 10-11-05 | 08:05 PM
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yup
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Old 10-11-05 | 08:09 PM
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Thanks for the quick reply dolface.

After hearing you guys bash the bike so much . . . . I'll probably end up getting it if it fits. I'll let You guys know.
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Old 10-11-05 | 08:12 PM
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cool, and we'll want pics of course
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Old 10-11-05 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dolface
cool, and we'll want pics of course
Yes of course. . . it's only talk unless there's pictures
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Old 10-11-05 | 11:07 PM
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Old 10-12-05 | 01:20 AM
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Miyata = Japanese brand, right? Just curious...
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Old 10-12-05 | 04:42 AM
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Ayup. I read somewhere that they had their own foundry in Japan.
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Old 10-12-05 | 06:51 AM
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it sounds like it's a 912, and if it is, it's a steal at $150, those frames are awesome. i'm pretty sure they used high-end i****awa tubing, and that olld 600 stuff is quality.
I agree I have a 912 conversion. the super long wheel base is great for commuting and the tubing is pretty rugged. It's really un-responsive though which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want.
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Old 10-12-05 | 08:46 AM
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I agree I have a 912 conversion. the super long wheel base is great for commuting and the tubing is pretty rugged. It's really un-responsive though which is either a good thing or a bad thing depending on what you want.
A couple questions for ya . . .

I'm assuming You mean "Un-responsive" in form of agilty, right? But then again the "super long wheel base" should be good for straight-line stability, right? Any guess of how the ride would compare to my LeMond Poprad? Oh, and since it has a "super long wheel base, should I be thinking more about pedal strike? Any guess of how the ride would compare to my LeMond Poprad?

I'm planning on seeing it tonight with camera in hand
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Old 10-12-05 | 06:23 PM
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I talked to the owner again via phone, and he confirmed that it was indeed a nine-twelve (912). I'm going to look at the bike in about 4-5 hours, is there anything in particular I need to pay attention to while looking the bike over. The owner said that the frame is in really good shape, althouh there is slight surface rust in some of the joints (but he claims that it's very superficial).

So is there anything I should look out for in particular?
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Old 10-13-05 | 12:32 AM
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After a few seconds on the bike I fell in Love with it. It rides really nice, and it's pretty light. And since a promise is a promise here are the pictures. I still haven't had time to clean it, but it's not bad. Thanks everyone for the comments.

Miyata "Nine Twelve" ~59-60













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Old 10-13-05 | 12:34 AM
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Oh, I'll start the conversion once I find some $ and do some more research.
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