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Old 12-14-07 | 12:15 PM
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I'm honored that people have bookmarked my bikes on Flickr.
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Old 12-14-07 | 04:03 PM
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I'm honored that people have bookmarked my bikes on Flickr.
i didn't bookmark it, just dug it up out of the "Show off your track bikes pics" in the track forum

parker, i do like the nagasawa a good deal (even though i'm not into risers these days). stick on a white saddle, track drops and paint both wheels white and you'd probably win me over for favorite track bike.

drops are good times on the street, at least for me, because they're nice to get down in when the wind comes, as well as for accelerating from stand still (stop lights). i ride in the drops on my bars every day... if i put some dummy ergo brake hoods on my b-123aa's, i'm pretty sure they'd be just about perfect for the street. i'm thinkin about it...

throw on the bullhorns! you know you're faster with those than risers
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Old 12-15-07 | 01:26 AM
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It is cheap in Japan for a disc. Nearly any disc will go for 50000 on yahooauc now. I am sure mine would too if I posted it and put something like (mash t19 njs bape kalavinka yabai) in the title.

Andre - My friend here has a funny bike with 2 white discs on it....I will get a photo some time soon.
In regard to the bars....I feel like through the city (100% of my riding is in traffic) risers are the fastest bars, mainly because I can move quickly around cars. In traffic drops are the slowest, for me at least. A year ago I thought I would NEVER ever use a riser/oury combo, but it just works.
I am looking for a white saddle all the time...looking for a cinelli slx (is that the name?)...anything perforated white looks great.

I am building another bike now, 110 spaced 565mm 3Rensho, which I have been collected Italian NJS parts for. It will be a classic track style bike. It is at Vivalo now in Kobe being restored. White with silver metal flake. Campa record njs hubs (pre-C Record) and some other goodness.
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Old 12-16-07 | 08:33 AM
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here are the hubs for the 3Rensho....sorry to semi hijack this thread with self indulgence.

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Old 12-16-07 | 03:08 PM
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so i'm a couple pages late, but can i please get some more info on that aero'd IRO with the zebra disc? it's been posted here before, and i seem to remember it really looking like spectar, prototype foam, or something like that.
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Old 12-19-07 | 12:42 AM
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Old 12-19-07 | 01:47 AM
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Old 12-19-07 | 01:48 AM
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Old 12-19-07 | 01:53 AM
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are you trying to build it up soon or take your time. cant wait to see it built
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Old 12-19-07 | 02:02 AM
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It depends. I have two frames to deal with here that arent built. I want to build them both from the parts on my built bike and ride them both and decide which feels better.
When i fly back to the states in a few weeks im gonna have some luggage space issues. Its a mess.

This is the other one.
Maybe im crazy for thinking id keep the Panasonic over the Nagasawa or the Makino i'm riding but i really dig the green color though. One thing that bothers me is having a bike that is in mint condition. The Panasonic has no scratches or even nicks, its perfect. I think id be totally paranoid about it.
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Old 12-19-07 | 02:04 AM
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I could probably take that Nagasawa off your hands
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Old 12-19-07 | 02:08 AM
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Incorrect.

A mint bike just means you know where every single blemish came from (you), inducing baby-like sleep patterns.

Actually, babies sleep like *****. Why do we say "sleep like a baby" anyway?

On second thought, trade that Nagasawa for my Guerciotti and call it a day. You like red. 54 c-t-t?




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It depends. I have two frames to deal with here that arent built. I want to build them both from the parts on my built bike and ride them both and decide which feels better.
When i fly back to the states in a few weeks im gonna have some luggage space issues. Its a mess.

This is the other one.
Maybe im crazy for thinking id keep the Panasonic over the Nagasawa or the Makino i'm riding but i really dig the green color though. One thing that bothers me is having a bike that is in mint condition. The Panasonic has no scratches or even nicks, its perfect. I think id be totally paranoid about it.
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Old 12-19-07 | 02:10 AM
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Got a pic of it? Yeah, red is nice.
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Old 12-19-07 | 03:58 AM
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Got a pic of it? Yeah, red is nice.



Oh-oh I just dropped my ravioli in the soy sauce. Oh well, I started this thread, I figure I can derail it a bit.
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Old 12-19-07 | 04:54 AM
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Seems nice. Other pics? Condition, damage? Age?
Top tube is?
The seat tube looks quite laid back eh?

I doubt id wanna trade cause i just realized its drilled for a front brake.

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Old 12-19-07 | 05:37 AM
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That Naga would have to be worth more than any Keirin frame. Best colour, best maker, best size, best condition. Also has the Inspection sticker on the seat tube, and a Hatta Swan. Great find Deathhare. That is a really really rare combo, even in Japan. Keep it forever!
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Old 12-19-07 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by parkerlewis
That Naga would have to be worth more than any Keirin frame. Best colour, best maker, best size, best condition. Also has the Inspection sticker on the seat tube, and a Hatta Swan. Great find Deathhare. That is a really really rare combo, even in Japan. Keep it forever!
Yeah, i know i havent seen many white ones.
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Old 12-19-07 | 10:55 AM
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that panasonic is sweet
that nagasawa is sweet
keep them both
or i'll trade you a broken bstone
and a broken benotto track frame for the panasonic
deal?
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Old 12-19-07 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by dooktruck
that panasonic is sweet
that nagasawa is sweet
keep them both
or i'll trade you a broken bstone
and a broken benotto track frame for the panasonic
deal?
i'll trade you a benotto road frame with no fork for your broken bstone and benotto frame and forks. the benotto road frame has been "straightened" by a ******.
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Old 12-19-07 | 01:55 PM
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lug-e-fresh! i especially dig where the seat binder bolt is located. just like my makino # 2.


...not to mention the headtube luggery. agh! i hate you....long time.
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Old 12-19-07 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerlewis
That Naga would have to be worth more than any Keirin frame. Best colour, best maker, best size, best condition. Also has the Inspection sticker on the seat tube, and a Hatta Swan. Great find Deathhare. That is a really really rare combo, even in Japan. Keep it forever!
White frames go for more than others in Japan?

I owned a white keirin frame for about 3 weeks. Man did it show the dirt! I figured people would pay more cash for sparkly colored frame jobs in Japan over a white one...
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Old 12-19-07 | 04:01 PM
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highlighter green is not the best color for a bike at all. i would keep the nagasawa. and as for the gooch being drilled for a brake, so what?
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Old 12-19-07 | 04:05 PM
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Man **** colors! You can make a nice looking bike out of either one. Just take the better fitting/better riding one.
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Old 12-19-07 | 04:06 PM
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drilled = faster, actually.
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Old 12-20-07 | 03:05 AM
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The 2 colours I get the most email requests for, are white and crazy bright colours, like this green/pink etc..

Nagasawa in white is quite rare. Normal is nagano red like mine, or silver. Black ones look a bit crap. Not many other colours are seen on Naga frames...

It is just a ****ing nice clean, perfect frame....I would love to own something like that. It gets no better.
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