Sputnik
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you guys heard anything about this? I guess I should tell you what I'm talking about. Jamis' track bike they are introducing for '06. Reynolds 631 tubing, carbon fork(EA70, I think), formula hubs, laced to velocity's(I think, again). Doesn't come with pedals or brakes. Sounds to me like their comet in track version. It too is blacked out.
Something feels wrong about it though, just like...not right. I don't know. but there's a little fyi.
Something feels wrong about it though, just like...not right. I don't know. but there's a little fyi.
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I'll have to look at the specs again, I missed the tubing. I seriously hope they're using the formula hubs, although I kinda doubt it.
I really hate how Jamis takes forever to put up the next year's bikes. Kona's stuff is all up already.
if it's actually 631 (which I don't doubt) maybe I'll ProDeal one.
I really hate how Jamis takes forever to put up the next year's bikes. Kona's stuff is all up already.
if it's actually 631 (which I don't doubt) maybe I'll ProDeal one.
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Originally Posted by hyperRevue
link?
that's the thing, they're REALLY slow about updating their website. We have a dealer book someplace around the shop with all the info, but I haven't seen it in a while.
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You can download Jamis' 2006 catalog from their website now.
Here are the specs (more or less quoted word for word)...
Frame: Reynolds 631 triangle + heat-treated CroMo stays
Fork: Easton EC70 carbon fork
Wheels: Alex DA22 rims, Formula 32H rear flip-flop hub
Tires: Hutchinson Quartz, folding, 23C
Drivetrain: Fixed gear single speed, TruVativ Touro 48t crankset
Cockpit: Easton EA50 bars, EA50 stem, Easton Road seat post, Fizik Pave saddle
Brakeset: N/A
Sizes: 50, 53, 55, 57, 59, 62 cm
Color: Ano Black
Weight: 16.50 lbs
Here are the specs (more or less quoted word for word)...
Frame: Reynolds 631 triangle + heat-treated CroMo stays
Fork: Easton EC70 carbon fork
Wheels: Alex DA22 rims, Formula 32H rear flip-flop hub
Tires: Hutchinson Quartz, folding, 23C
Drivetrain: Fixed gear single speed, TruVativ Touro 48t crankset
Cockpit: Easton EA50 bars, EA50 stem, Easton Road seat post, Fizik Pave saddle
Brakeset: N/A
Sizes: 50, 53, 55, 57, 59, 62 cm
Color: Ano Black
Weight: 16.50 lbs
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On a personal note - I rather like it (the Sputnik). It reminds me of my Steamroller (steel + carbon fork) and has the added conveniences of two water bottle mounts and a *well*-designed rear brake mount (for those days when you decide to take on the ECCC Men's D field rolling singlespeed).
Then again, I've got an EC90 fork (yeah, more bling), Ritchey WCS "cockpit", and Sugino 75s. Eat that Jamis! Crap, but they've got 631. Dang...thought I had them.
Then again, I've got an EC90 fork (yeah, more bling), Ritchey WCS "cockpit", and Sugino 75s. Eat that Jamis! Crap, but they've got 631. Dang...thought I had them.
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www.jamisbikes.com...seems to pop right up if I google for "Jamis bicycles". The catalog is a big (~35 MB) PDF, which you can d/l from the front page.
The Sputnik is on page 11 (of 44).
The Sputnik is on page 11 (of 44).
Originally Posted by hyperRevue
link?
no luck with google.
no luck with google.
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https://www.jamisbikes.com/jamiscatal...IS_CATALOG.pdf
Some of the pages still link to the '05 catalog.
Some of the pages still link to the '05 catalog.
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I just noticed that they left a ****ton of steerer tube on that fork. Weird. On the other hand, I cut mine at least 10-15 mm too short (that was dumb). Guess they'd rather be safe than stupid (like me).
Edit: Oh big party foul here. I looked at the end of the catalog, and the 55 cm and larger frames have 175 mm cranks. Tsk tsk! Also, stock gearing is 48-15. They must have 'em big thighs over at Jamis.
Can you guys tell that I'm avoiding homework?
Edit: Oh big party foul here. I looked at the end of the catalog, and the 55 cm and larger frames have 175 mm cranks. Tsk tsk! Also, stock gearing is 48-15. They must have 'em big thighs over at Jamis.
Can you guys tell that I'm avoiding homework?
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Originally Posted by psn
I just noticed that they left a ****ton of steerer tube on that fork. Weird. On the other hand, I cut mine at least 10-15 mm too short (that was dumb). Guess they'd rather be safe than stupid (like me).
Edit: Oh big party foul here. I looked at the end of the catalog, and the 55 cm and larger frames have 175 mm cranks. Tsk tsk! Also, stock gearing is 48-15. They must have 'em big thighs over at Jamis.
Can you guys tell that I'm avoiding homework?
Edit: Oh big party foul here. I looked at the end of the catalog, and the 55 cm and larger frames have 175 mm cranks. Tsk tsk! Also, stock gearing is 48-15. They must have 'em big thighs over at Jamis.
Can you guys tell that I'm avoiding homework?
They've been leaving long steerer tubes on the forks of all their bikes this year, which I think is great.
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Yeah I think it is a (very) good idea to leave the extra tube (if they indeed do, and it wasn't just for the bike pictured) so that people can cut it to the length that's right for them. However, it seems like bike companies usually take pictures of their bikes with very little extra steerer tube (10-20 mm) to make it look more...um...sleek. That's the only reason I thought it was "weird".
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Originally Posted by psn
Yeah I think it is a (very) good idea to leave the extra tube (if they indeed do, and it wasn't just for the bike pictured) so that people can cut it to the length that's right for them. However, it seems like bike companies usually take pictures of their bikes with very little extra steerer tube (10-20 mm) to make it look more...um...sleek. That's the only reason I thought it was "weird".
They actually do leave it. We got in 25 of the Coda line and they all come with three HUGE headset spacers.
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I'll verify that too, we just got coda comp built up and I was staring at those three HUGE spacers, I thought it was a little over the top, but it would make it nice if needed a higher handlebar.
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Psst, D-Dub, they stopped making that bike in 2004.
They also always listed it under the "performance road" category, if that gives any hints as to the origins of its "slack" geometry, long wheelbase, and bottle cage mounts.
They also always listed it under the "performance road" category, if that gives any hints as to the origins of its "slack" geometry, long wheelbase, and bottle cage mounts.
Originally Posted by Walkercycles
Not to split hairs here, but if they are offering a "track bike", it would not come with bottle braze ons...Canondale should quit providing an example...
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I hear ya. For that matter, a track bike shouldn't have rear (or front) brake mounts either.
Regardless of its marketing, I look at the Sputnik as something more akin to a Steamroller, which I think is a great fg/ss roadie kind of bike, as opposed to a pure track bike. In that respect, I think it has a number of good features for longer (and non-competitive) rides. And with the exception of its cranks, it has a pretty nice set of components and materials that make it much less offensive than your average Windsor/"Motobecane"/cheapo fixie.
For *my* purposes, I'd pick this bike (provided the price is right) over the Pista/Rush Hour/Langster crew too. Of course, I always have my GT Pulse for real track action, not that we have a velodrome up here.
Regardless of its marketing, I look at the Sputnik as something more akin to a Steamroller, which I think is a great fg/ss roadie kind of bike, as opposed to a pure track bike. In that respect, I think it has a number of good features for longer (and non-competitive) rides. And with the exception of its cranks, it has a pretty nice set of components and materials that make it much less offensive than your average Windsor/"Motobecane"/cheapo fixie.
For *my* purposes, I'd pick this bike (provided the price is right) over the Pista/Rush Hour/Langster crew too. Of course, I always have my GT Pulse for real track action, not that we have a velodrome up here.





