i think this may have been covered recently, but i couldn't find it.

last nite i was installing my new wheels with campy "sheriff star" hubs. my shimano cog threaded right on, but the shimano DA lockring wouldn't thread, and in fact seemed too small. the campy lockring threaded on just fine however, which is fine for now but i've heard they can strip easily, and in fact this one seems to be on it's way out.

so what lock ring alternatives to i have?

-joe

Nevermind.
I need to read more carefully.

I think your only option is Campy.
Maybe old Superbe.

thanks hyper. good to see you at the sprints.

Nice to see you too.

Did I understand your post correctly that you have a campy lockring?
If not I have one I'd be willing to sell.

I think Campy/Miche/Phil are all italian threaded.

yup, mine's campy.

thanks gorn. i'll most likely pick up a Phil ring soon.

Ugh, yes.
I always forget Phil makes Campy compatible stuff.

Get a phil, much more durable than the campy, and probably less money.

Phil all the way. The Campy one blows. I have one on the track wheelset and man, those two notches are almost rounded off. Not worth it. The Phil is so much beefier and has a good number of notches for excellent leverage. It's what I run on the Jackson.

And if you use the same crappy park lockring tool I have you can use the three pronged side with the phil lockring.

i'm not a fan of phil lockrings. the notched area is too thin and it makes them a bit fragile if you change cogs frequently. i actually just bought EAI (campy compatible) lockrings to throw on my phils the next time i change cogs. they're far beefier. pauls are also campy compatible. trackstar just gave me the rundown on campy compatible lockrings last night. how fortuitous.

Park tools lockring tool sucks ass.
Buy a nice set of channel locks and file down the teeth to make a lockring pliers.
Best tool I own.

does the EAI locking fit the 3 notches on the park tools lockring tool as well? That's the thing I love about the Phil lockring. Those notches line right on up and I feel like I get much better contact on 'em than the other lockrings I have. Surly lockrings suck, IMO, but that's neither here nor there.

Pauls are Campy Compatible? They're super beefy.

I haven't seen EAI lockrings yet -- but now I'm intrigued.

Also, +1 on the channel locks. That's what Marcus at Yojimbo's does. Super nice leverage and beefy.

Edit: I said cogs when I meant lockrings.

I just bought the EAI campy lockring from Ben's cycle. It's beefy and threads on perfectly on my Campy Nuevo Record hub.

EAI cogs are really nice. I have a 19 (I know ... its huge) and its really nicely made.

yeah. the EAI lockrings are as nice as their cogs, just about as beefy as the paul lockrings, but for a fraction of the price--around 10 bucks.

thanks everyone. looks like i need to look at the EAI as well.
and I've got to make one of those channel lock tools. i currently use the
knuckle-busting Park tool.

park lockring tool works fine, STOP HATIN

look for a old Campy Super Record or Nuevo Record lock ring. They are steel and last a long time.

S/F,
CEYA!

What do the EAI lockrings look like? How many notches? Anyone have a photo? (couldn't find any on the interwebs).

update: i guess i misunderstood at trackstar last night. i just double checked with paul about their threading. it's JIS and not campy compatible.

The Park lockring tool pretty much sucks, but if you get stuck with one it works far better if you use the middle tooth of the 3 prong side. Stamped POS.

Does anyone else use a Park BBT-7 bottom bracket tool for their Phil Wood lock ring? It is a perfect fit. I had mine for an older Dura Ace BB. With 5 prongs you don't slip at all.

I have not tried the pliers, a little pricey but I am guessing they are worth it.