Those who run brakes...
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I use my brake when I need to stop, but I still use my legs to regulate my speed quite a bit. I would be very nervous running without the lock ring on there. It is a cheap part and not one using seems to be asking for trouble.
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I've run brakes + suicide for beaters, which is fine (no clips, so I'm not going to skip or skid anyway). This is fine, if anything does go wrong you just grab the brakes. Not using a lockring on a real track hub is just dumb.
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Yes. On the wheels I've converted, a couple didn't have enough room for a BB lockring. So I tightened them really tight and used blue locktite. On my first conversion, in fact, I asked in the order to Harris if they would throw a BB lockring in the order. The written response on the invoice said, "sorry, we're ought of lockrings. Sheldon says just use blue locktite." Of course, maybe they were just SAYING that, and never checked with him at all?
Whatever, thousands of trouble free miles later, never had a problem other than my first test ride around the block when it spun off on the second corner cuz I didn't keep peddling and hadn't locktited the cog or tightened it more than finger tight.
Whatever, thousands of trouble free miles later, never had a problem other than my first test ride around the block when it spun off on the second corner cuz I didn't keep peddling and hadn't locktited the cog or tightened it more than finger tight.
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*raises hand*
But then the lockring threads are stripped...
It's really funny how much of an issue people make suicide hubs to be. The same people who ride without a brake
If you have a front brake and spin off the cog, you just pedal forward and use the brake.
Riding fixed doesn't imply that you skid all over the place like a silly 12 year-old. Speed modulation, trackstands and backwards circles work just fine w/o a lockring. Of course, if you have a track hub with good threads, it makes no sense not to use the lockring... unless you race track and can't be bothered.
But then the lockring threads are stripped...
It's really funny how much of an issue people make suicide hubs to be. The same people who ride without a brake

If you have a front brake and spin off the cog, you just pedal forward and use the brake.
Riding fixed doesn't imply that you skid all over the place like a silly 12 year-old. Speed modulation, trackstands and backwards circles work just fine w/o a lockring. Of course, if you have a track hub with good threads, it makes no sense not to use the lockring... unless you race track and can't be bothered.
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i use my brake almost exclusively on my commute to work, as there are several big hills that end in stop lights that i prefer to bomb down. i feel that relying on my legs to modulate speed makes my legs stronger, and makes me ride more safely.
personally, i would never run without a lockring, as i can't completely trust the holding power of a rotafixed cog with or without loctite. applying backpressure is an integral part of how i ride, and i can't depend on something that isn't as reliable as a lockring. decent rear track wheels run about $100, money well spent.
personally, i would never run without a lockring, as i can't completely trust the holding power of a rotafixed cog with or without loctite. applying backpressure is an integral part of how i ride, and i can't depend on something that isn't as reliable as a lockring. decent rear track wheels run about $100, money well spent.
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#14
I use my brake and I could never backpedal hard enough to spin my cog off.
The reason I posted this thread is because back when I didn't have a flip-flop hub I would simply carry another cog and halfway into a long ride if I needed to change my gearing for any reason I would rotafix off the cog and spin on the other. No lockring. Never had a problem.
The reason I posted this thread is because back when I didn't have a flip-flop hub I would simply carry another cog and halfway into a long ride if I needed to change my gearing for any reason I would rotafix off the cog and spin on the other. No lockring. Never had a problem.
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sometimes my wife gets really kinky and she wants to go at it all night. I'm not the young guy I used to be so I definately use a coc... ohhhhhhhhhhhh...L-O-C-K ring. Haha...wrong forum...
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Never ever even crossed my mind not to install the lock ring. But if I were to start bringing extra cogs with me on rides, I guess I will be bringing a lock ring tool too.
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Originally Posted by penguinc00
My freewheel hub does not have enough space for a lock ring, so it's sprocket + locktite for me!
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