Unexpected week off
07-14-06 | 06:16 PM
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Unexpected week off
So a few months ago I was told I'm getting a raise and a promotion. A month and a half ago, I started doing the position, promised a hefty raise. Yesterday, they finally got everything through the corporate bullcrap and made me an offer.
It was basically nothing. I get a 10% shift differential, and I'd lose that with the new job. Supposedly, it would be a 17% increase, but that's only 7% when you figure that I can't actually do the new job on second shift. And the offer is ~$3-5 less than the going wage, and what I was led to believe I'd be making... And it wouldn't even be retroactive to when I started doing the work. Plus I should be getting about that much right now for the position I was doing (we just had our reviews, and the raises are supposed to be kicking in as of the 5th. THOSE will be retroactive because we still haven't gotten the details from corprate.)
So today I told them that I couldn't accept the position, and would be taking next week off, then returning to my old position.
Dumb, probably yeah (sorry, Keicker, your comment was too late to stop my brashness...)
So anyone in Minneapolis that feels like hanging out and riding and/or drinking next week, I'm totally available. Unless they come up with a better offer when they see how many things there are that only I know.
Anyways...
It was basically nothing. I get a 10% shift differential, and I'd lose that with the new job. Supposedly, it would be a 17% increase, but that's only 7% when you figure that I can't actually do the new job on second shift. And the offer is ~$3-5 less than the going wage, and what I was led to believe I'd be making... And it wouldn't even be retroactive to when I started doing the work. Plus I should be getting about that much right now for the position I was doing (we just had our reviews, and the raises are supposed to be kicking in as of the 5th. THOSE will be retroactive because we still haven't gotten the details from corprate.)
So today I told them that I couldn't accept the position, and would be taking next week off, then returning to my old position.
Dumb, probably yeah (sorry, Keicker, your comment was too late to stop my brashness...)
So anyone in Minneapolis that feels like hanging out and riding and/or drinking next week, I'm totally available. Unless they come up with a better offer when they see how many things there are that only I know.
Anyways...
07-14-06 | 06:27 PM
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Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
They should. I called in hung over from the Bike Film Festival last friday and the shop ground to a halt in the digital color dept, so I have the feeling next week is going to be chaos down there...
07-14-06 | 06:28 PM
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ha ha...well, i'm sure you're prepared to pick up some pieces come next monday then, i'm sure.
07-14-06 | 07:26 PM
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man, i've become comfortable with the minimum wage lifestyle. anything more, you get thankful for.
07-14-06 | 08:10 PM
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Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
It was supposed to be going from the $16/hr lifestyle to the $22/hr lifestyle... I've spent the last hour or so chatting with a freind that also works down there, and she agrees that I went about things wrong. At this point, all I can do is wait and see.
Moral of the story - never send emails at work when you're pissed...
Moral of the story - never send emails at work when you're pissed...
07-14-06 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by HereNT
It was supposed to be going from the $16/hr lifestyle to the $22/hr lifestyle... I've spent the last hour or so chatting with a freind that also works down there, and she agrees that I went about things wrong. At this point, all I can do is wait and see.
Moral of the story - never send emails at work when you're pissed...
Moral of the story - never send emails at work when you're pissed...
07-14-06 | 08:33 PM
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Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
Um, it means the retro was supposed to be a new(maybe used but nice) touring bike, plus some upgrades for my fixies...
The rest of it means that I might have just shot myself in the foot with this company, and need to start over with a new one...
The rest of it means that I might have just shot myself in the foot with this company, and need to start over with a new one...
07-15-06 | 01:15 AM
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Well, I'm not sure they'll like the "I hope your offer was a joke" bit and the "have fun" bit... But then what do I know. I guess they'll swallow it if your work is important to the company.
07-15-06 | 02:10 AM
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moral of the story is do not work a job that angers you
i once quit on the second morning when i realized the lady i was to work with was a total nightmare
best decision/feeling ever
i once quit on the second morning when i realized the lady i was to work with was a total nightmare
best decision/feeling ever
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Ode to the after work nap ( ride your bike instead)
Ode to the nap
The evil, evil nap
It lures
you succumb
But only with good intent
Shortly I will rise
But you do not.
Do not succumb
To the evil, evil nap
Ode to the after work nap ( ride your bike instead)
Ode to the nap
The evil, evil nap
It lures
you succumb
But only with good intent
Shortly I will rise
But you do not.
Do not succumb
To the evil, evil nap
07-15-06 | 08:27 AM
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I left 19.00 an hour in digital print-XEROX & NEXPRESS to come to 11.00 an
hour bindery work here in Vermont. The grass isnt always greener.
Contriteness does wonders in these situations. Good luck and best wishes getting this
stuff sorted.
hour bindery work here in Vermont. The grass isnt always greener.
Contriteness does wonders in these situations. Good luck and best wishes getting this
stuff sorted.
07-15-06 | 10:02 AM
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Jeremy,
Man, that kinda sucks about yr job. I remember the last time I saw you on Nicollet Mall during that race and you were so excited abt your new raise, sucks. I would definitely love to ride with u but I'm in Atlanta from the 12th to the 24th. And yes, it's really ****ing hot!!!! Will be moving here somewhere near the end of thr summer, and I'm just here now checking it out.
Man, that kinda sucks about yr job. I remember the last time I saw you on Nicollet Mall during that race and you were so excited abt your new raise, sucks. I would definitely love to ride with u but I'm in Atlanta from the 12th to the 24th. And yes, it's really ****ing hot!!!! Will be moving here somewhere near the end of thr summer, and I'm just here now checking it out.
07-15-06 | 10:03 AM
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how about taking a side trip to Chicago, huh? megabus.com will take you and your trusty steel steed here for a steal...
07-15-06 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by HereNT
So a few months ago I was told I'm getting a raise and a promotion. A month and a half ago, I started doing the position, promised a hefty raise. Yesterday, they finally got everything through the corporate bullcrap and made me an offer.
It was basically nothing. I get a 10% shift differential, and I'd lose that with the new job. Supposedly, it would be a 17% increase, but that's only 7% when you figure that I can't actually do the new job on second shift. And the offer is ~$3-5 less than the going wage, and what I was led to believe I'd be making... And it wouldn't even be retroactive to when I started doing the work. Plus I should be getting about that much right now for the position I was doing (we just had our reviews, and the raises are supposed to be kicking in as of the 5th. THOSE will be retroactive because we still haven't gotten the details from corprate.)
So today I told them that I couldn't accept the position, and would be taking next week off, then returning to my old position.
Dumb, probably yeah (sorry, Keicker, your comment was too late to stop my brashness...)
So anyone in Minneapolis that feels like hanging out and riding and/or drinking next week, I'm totally available. Unless they come up with a better offer when they see how many things there are that only I know.
Anyways...
It was basically nothing. I get a 10% shift differential, and I'd lose that with the new job. Supposedly, it would be a 17% increase, but that's only 7% when you figure that I can't actually do the new job on second shift. And the offer is ~$3-5 less than the going wage, and what I was led to believe I'd be making... And it wouldn't even be retroactive to when I started doing the work. Plus I should be getting about that much right now for the position I was doing (we just had our reviews, and the raises are supposed to be kicking in as of the 5th. THOSE will be retroactive because we still haven't gotten the details from corprate.)
So today I told them that I couldn't accept the position, and would be taking next week off, then returning to my old position.
Dumb, probably yeah (sorry, Keicker, your comment was too late to stop my brashness...)
So anyone in Minneapolis that feels like hanging out and riding and/or drinking next week, I'm totally available. Unless they come up with a better offer when they see how many things there are that only I know.
Anyways...
give me your week off!
07-15-06 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
how about taking a side trip to Chicago, huh? megabus.com will take you and your trusty steel steed here for a steal...
Last edited by absntr; 07-15-06 at 12:44 PM.
07-15-06 | 10:20 AM
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Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
Hmm... Chicago could be fun... Is it any cooler over there than it is here? It's WAY too hot this week...
SamHouston - apparently the email that I sent probably ruined my chances. Oops. I'll find out when I get back, I guess. As far as I know, I was the only one that applied for the position, it was made just for me. I've been *****ing for awhile that they hadn't made things official and that I was getting ripped off doing the job without the raise. Careerwise, it's a no-brainer that the position would get me a lot more places, but I couldn't do it for what they were offering...
In retrospect, I should have just said I needed a week to think about it.
Oops.
SamHouston - apparently the email that I sent probably ruined my chances. Oops. I'll find out when I get back, I guess. As far as I know, I was the only one that applied for the position, it was made just for me. I've been *****ing for awhile that they hadn't made things official and that I was getting ripped off doing the job without the raise. Careerwise, it's a no-brainer that the position would get me a lot more places, but I couldn't do it for what they were offering...
In retrospect, I should have just said I needed a week to think about it.
Oops.
07-15-06 | 11:27 AM
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Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
Wow, megabus is super cheap!
If I were to say, head over on wed and head back sun, who'd be able to give me a peice of floor and a blanket and something to do?
Honestly, I'd love it if they called with another offer and I had to be like 'Sorry, I'm in another state, I can't come in...'
Maybe I should leave on monday instead...
If I were to say, head over on wed and head back sun, who'd be able to give me a peice of floor and a blanket and something to do?
Honestly, I'd love it if they called with another offer and I had to be like 'Sorry, I'm in another state, I can't come in...'
Maybe I should leave on monday instead...
07-15-06 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by HereNT
Hmm... Chicago could be fun... Is it any cooler over there than it is here? It's WAY too hot this week...
SamHouston - apparently the email that I sent probably ruined my chances. Oops. I'll find out when I get back, I guess. As far as I know, I was the only one that applied for the position, it was made just for me. I've been *****ing for awhile that they hadn't made things official and that I was getting ripped off doing the job without the raise. Careerwise, it's a no-brainer that the position would get me a lot more places, but I couldn't do it for what they were offering...
In retrospect, I should have just said I needed a week to think about it.
Oops.
SamHouston - apparently the email that I sent probably ruined my chances. Oops. I'll find out when I get back, I guess. As far as I know, I was the only one that applied for the position, it was made just for me. I've been *****ing for awhile that they hadn't made things official and that I was getting ripped off doing the job without the raise. Careerwise, it's a no-brainer that the position would get me a lot more places, but I couldn't do it for what they were offering...
In retrospect, I should have just said I needed a week to think about it.
Oops.
Unless you're the nervous type or worried about saving face or something, I can see no compelling reason not to.
07-15-06 | 11:43 AM
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Good Morning,
I assume that the offer you made me yesterday was a joke. That was my
initial impression after seeing it, and after reviewing the numbers, I can't
accept it.
The main sticking point for me is the shift differential. This 10% has
been part of my wage as long as I've been with -----. The way I see it, my
wage right now isn't $14.47/hr, it's $15.92. Since it would be nearly
impossible for me to actually perform the duties of the new position on
second shift, I would lose this.
Figuring that into account, your offer is actually only a 6.7% increase. I
was expecting a similar raise as an iGen operator.
Which is another point - when I moved from B&W to color, I was told it was
a lateral move and was not given a raise. So I feel that my current wage is
actually quite low.
I also know that the average wage for this position is $20-22/hr. I was
expecting an offer in this range.
If you were to bring in someone from outside the company, it's hard to
believe that you would find anyone willing to do it for what you are
offering me. And it's hard to believe that you would find anyone who would
know as much about setting up jobs for our machines and clients.
For the last month and a half, I have been working in this position on the
good faith that I would be made a reasonable offer, in a timely manner.
During that time, I feel I have been unfairly compensated for the work that
I have been doing. In the first two weeks alone, that's $300 I lost, if you
use the offer you made me. If you look at the going wage for this position,
it's a lot more.
IF you can actually make me an offer that is acceptable, I'd like for it to
be retroactive to June 5th, when I started doing this work.
Otherwise, I have no choice but to return to my position as a second shift
iGen operator.
I will be taking next week off, during which time hopefully you can come up
with a better offer.
Thanks, but no thanks,
hereNT
I assume that the offer you made me yesterday was a joke. That was my
initial impression after seeing it, and after reviewing the numbers, I can't
accept it.
The main sticking point for me is the shift differential. This 10% has
been part of my wage as long as I've been with -----. The way I see it, my
wage right now isn't $14.47/hr, it's $15.92. Since it would be nearly
impossible for me to actually perform the duties of the new position on
second shift, I would lose this.
Figuring that into account, your offer is actually only a 6.7% increase. I
was expecting a similar raise as an iGen operator.
Which is another point - when I moved from B&W to color, I was told it was
a lateral move and was not given a raise. So I feel that my current wage is
actually quite low.
I also know that the average wage for this position is $20-22/hr. I was
expecting an offer in this range.
If you were to bring in someone from outside the company, it's hard to
believe that you would find anyone willing to do it for what you are
offering me. And it's hard to believe that you would find anyone who would
know as much about setting up jobs for our machines and clients.
For the last month and a half, I have been working in this position on the
good faith that I would be made a reasonable offer, in a timely manner.
During that time, I feel I have been unfairly compensated for the work that
I have been doing. In the first two weeks alone, that's $300 I lost, if you
use the offer you made me. If you look at the going wage for this position,
it's a lot more.
IF you can actually make me an offer that is acceptable, I'd like for it to
be retroactive to June 5th, when I started doing this work.
Otherwise, I have no choice but to return to my position as a second shift
iGen operator.
I will be taking next week off, during which time hopefully you can come up
with a better offer.
Thanks, but no thanks,
hereNT
07-15-06 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HereNT
Wow, megabus is super cheap!
If I were to say, head over on wed and head back sun, who'd be able to give me a peice of floor and a blanket and something to do?
Honestly, I'd love it if they called with another offer and I had to be like 'Sorry, I'm in another state, I can't come in...'
Maybe I should leave on monday instead...
If I were to say, head over on wed and head back sun, who'd be able to give me a peice of floor and a blanket and something to do?
Honestly, I'd love it if they called with another offer and I had to be like 'Sorry, I'm in another state, I can't come in...'
Maybe I should leave on monday instead...
as for something to do, during the day we'd give you a map and say "GO!". at night, well, that's when the fun begins.
07-15-06 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chimblysweep
You have our couch at least... and I know there are folks with extra bedrooms that may be available, if you're looking for an upgrade.
as for something to do, during the day we'd give you a map and say "GO!". at night, well, that's when the fun begins.
as for something to do, during the day we'd give you a map and say "GO!". at night, well, that's when the fun begins.
And you're not a stranger to Chi of course:
