visitordesign

it sounds like a lot of thought went into the geometry. i'm sure people will appreciate that. the thing is, look at the road frame right behind the track frame in the photo. it's beautiful. i can't imagine that it would take much added effort or expense to treat an aluminum frame with a little extra love. i'm not a fan of the Capo, but canondale treats the joints with what looks like attention to detail. to bring that to this frame and then treat the graphics and decals with a bit more detail could do a lot to get the frame some more attention in a shop.

these are purely aesthetic suggestions. but if you really believe in what you've written about salvaging the brand--packaging is a big part of branding and could go a long way toward your salvage goals.

Masiguy

No sweat folks... that's why I'm here. I admit that sometimes it takes me a long time to get back to all the comments here, just because I'm a one man show. Still, I try to be here as often as I can.

I'd love to do a super sweet complete bike with Miche parts or something like that, but I'd only sell about 10-20 of them in a year. I have a dream to do a 60's era Masi Special track frame- complete with original style lugs. It'd be sweet, sort of like the 3V reproduction we did this year, but it'd be a bit more expensive.

I'd even love to do a Nagasawa/ 3 Rensho styled steel Keirin frame. But... 1 or 2 of you folks and me would be the only ones who'd ever buy one.

Thanks for the support.

Tim

Masiguy

I agree with you. I thought, and so did the survey group, that the graphic package was a nice marriage of retro and modern. I personally love the red metal flake paint- which looks smokin' hot under the lights at night. The welds were a concession to utility and cost; I could deliver the frame at a better price by not doing sanded, double pass welds. I wanted to provide the market with a credible race frameset at a better price. I've personally found it hard to get a good race frame at the price we're shooting for (below $800 with fork and headset).

It's a fine line to walk; if I go too retro with the graphics, only us dwindling group of retro grouches will appreciate the look of the bikes and if I go too modern I alienate the folks who salivate over the older bikes. What we've tried to do is blend the two as harmoniously as possible. That's why the steel stuff has a panel graphic and the newer race bikes have a more modern look. If it were solely up to my own bias, every bike would have a panel graphic... but not everybody wants that- especially on a modern carbon bike, for example. It's a tough juggle. Still, keep your eyes peeled for some possible surprises over the course of the next year or two; you never know what might happen around here.

Tim

Serendipper 

Yeah, but imagine how much you would get flipping them on Ebay.

Just make the damn frames, buy em' back and flip 'em. The board of directors would hail you as genius.

Kogswell

Here's my message:

• you've shown respect for the brand
  
• the bike is hella smooth
  
• I hope you sell 40 ft of them a week
  
• thank goodness people like you still want to work in this business

Now show me the new CX bike again, I didn't get a chance to get back for a look

dirtyphotons

i'd like to see that as well

ryand

and i am making the third request.

SingleSpeeDemon

spud

i'm not sure i'm allowed to ask, but whats the MSRP?

oh and as long as i have your ear, i think its pretty nice looking. and thanks for taking the time to post here.

12XU

I'd guess around $750.

Masiguy

It was great meeting you and talking at the show- I truly appreciate your support and generous comments here and at the show. Thanks- sincerely.

Ok, the CXR will be a frameset and complete bike; bike will be around $1640 and the frame around $720 with fork and headset.


Let the slobbering commence...

Masiguy

Ok, I posted the photo link several times and it didn't work, so try this instead;
https://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2...Black_3Q.3.jpg

ryand

it isnt working.

my emoticon is turning sad.
and my eyes are leaking.

dirtyphotons

FORBIDDEN

seriously though, thanks for the effort. we on this forum may not be the lion's share of the market, but i've got nothing but good things to say about masi from now on.

freebird

Mr Jackson, it's refreshing to hear thoughtful comments coming from someone who obviously knows their s***. I think you are right in line with your new designs, and I too hope you sell a million, billion of them.

ryand

i agree with dirtyphotons, thanks for the effort. hopefully the company gets on the up again.

Masiguy

Argh... why am I so incapable of posting pictures here? Am I really that stupid? (Please nobody answer that.)

I'll try to figure this out and keep trying... if nothing else just go to my blog and search for CXR. The picture should come up. Maybe not- I'm totally inept technically.

Anyway, thanks for the support folks. I keep telling people all the time that I feel like one of the luckiest jerks in this silly business. I absolutely love my job and the brand that I get to be in trouble for. I promise you nobody loves Masi as much as I do. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you how damned annoying I am. I can't get more than a few minutes without talking about the bikes. It's actually kind of sad I guess.

ryand

Don't worry about posting a photo, but whats your blog address?

schooner

from: https://masiguy.blogspot.com/

Serendipper 

Yes. Absolutely pitiful, you are. As penance, you should hire me as the official street team leader and Masi bike rider, with a decent salary and some "promotional materials" i.e. new bikes.

I would ride around and promote the hell out of Masi, and your marriage would be saved. Win-win.

acavengo

Ok, backtracking a bit here, were most of the negative comments on here in reference to the orange Masi at the top of this topic or the red aluminum one that someone compared to a Leader frame? Those are two completely different looking bikes and I was not sure which one masiguy was defending.

I would also like to echo the sentiments expressed by some, having someone like masiguy on here is very cool and very much appreciated.

ryand

is this the photo of the cxr in which we have been waiting for?

i wish there was a slightly larger one on the page. i'll have to keep searching.

Masiguy

https://masiguy.blogspot.com/2006/08/...jetlagged.html

This link has a bigger picture of the bike. It rocks. You'll love it. I promise... for what that's worth.

Thanks again for the support (those of you supporting...)

To clarify for acevengo, both bikes got a bit of criticism. Some didn't like the welds on the aluminum and others didn't like anything about the steel orange bike. To each their own. I think they rock, but you'd expect me to.

Tim

ryand

i think the orange one is an awesome colour.

edit: and the cxr is a good lookin cx bike.

Masiguy

I agree... thanks.

Tim