The statement of the thread. This proves how LAME Critical Mass really is now. What is supposed to help a cause is just being F@ck'd up by a bunch of inconsiderate, hypocritical holier than thou nonsense.

Group Anarchy? Sounds good, I'll bring the beer!

group anarchy isn't anarchy

Re: tapping wheels
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=284717

Very biased article. You can clearly see this from the overall perspective the story was told from: the perspective of the car driver.

And then, take this quote:

What does "however" imply? That nothing happened to the victim, or that, in spite of what happened, he/she wasn't hurt? The reporter would like to make it sound as if the event didn't happen - but the truth is, it might have. The car might have, indeed, tapped the bike, and the cyclist could have fallen, as witnesses (not mentioned in this article, of course) mentioned.

EXACTLY. The mentality becomes that of a collective and you feel you won't be held accountable for your singular actions as part of the collective. Its why CM is ironic.

Ride your bikes as much as you want, boys and girls. Play by the rules of the road and don't worry so much about being a marketing tool to get the whole world to ride bikes. Because if the day comes that a good percentage of the world rides bikes instead of vehicles, it will have absolutely nothing to do with your silly little group rides. It will be based on individual economic necessity.

Very plausible scenario.

Someone needs to turn this lady onto the Clydesdale forum.

If I could only see the next 2 seconds of that action :D That poor bastard got properly "tired" in the crotch...

Anarchism as a movement isn't about chaos. It's about the removal of power structures and the development of co-operative communities. I'm not sure how many self-proclaimed 'anarchists' (or kids with circle-A patches) actually realise that.

yup, as long as the majority can afford to drive cars, bikes will be second class citizens on the road.

get used to it now before you get run over. physics will never be on your side, even if cars become more courteous.

dude you just described communism

**** like this never happens in Western Australia. There aren't enough cyclists to start a critical mass, let alone enough to actually mob a car.

I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Another blow for Iranian/Russian relations.

I bet he wasn't holding his head a bit later.

Oh I don't know the whole cooperative community thing sound awfully communist to me in the truest sense of the word

You know a true marxist communist system. communism as we westerners know it is really a totalitarian system with a dictator that often times takes advantage of the false sense of communism to placate ones own agenda, for the people!

Then again, maybe he was. Double entendre warning.


So, anyway... critical mass in Helsinki? I bet there would be at least 3 guys showing up :D :) :(

"A biker to my right made a 90-degree turn into the van. I didn't hit him," she said. "He so very intentionally biked into me."

from the CBS article. pretty articulate, did she put that on the police report?

to find the IQ of a mob you devide the IQ of the dumbest person in the group by the number of people in the group.

but really from that video i can say that i dont like that woman at all. she reminds me from the pta mom in donny darko

Yeah, 'proves' :rolleyes:

Regardless of any of the context and what is right or wrong, I find the media bias to be shocking. Nothing new though. That Ferrando woman seems like a slimey character.

I really don't know what the big deal is? The lady got what she deserved. Personally we should all go out and buy guns and protect ourselves from people like this. Just run down to the K-mart and grab a pistol and there you go. I mean what does anyone really expect? This is the US of A. We kick butt and that is the way it is. It is our way. So you folks in the CM's, don't take any crap man. Just ride and not care. It is our way. The rest of the world watch out. You may be next. Yeeeeeehaaaaaawwww. We need Jeb in next. Let's roll!

Since you're talking about "we westerners", and then you describe it as truly a totalitarian system with a dictator, that proves that you know nothing of which you speak.

A few choices words about the Critical Mass episode today in the local SF rag:

http://www.examiner.com/a-680357~Let..._18__2007.html

what the hell are you refering to??
I stated that the western view of a communist systems is skewd because of the fact that the "communist systems" in question are more like totalitarian system in reality.
Go read some marx and stfu.

Yeah, quit Stalin and show us your Marx

good one shiznaz ya know the whole commy thing should be moved to the politics thread anyway

I loved that family guy episode.

Go read some marx? You mean like, Capital, On the Jewish Question, The German Ideaology, or should I go on? I'm quite familiar with marx, and could be called either a marxist or a trot depending on how you wanted to look at things.

This conversation doesn't have to continue here, as it's out of place, but your statement lends itself to you agreeing with the naive (western) assumption of the totalitarian nature of any communist society (of which, regardless, the world has never seen)\\

Don't worry, it's 'inevitable', any day now the futility of capitalism will be realized and the workers will rise up to their rightful place

(Yes, being sarcastic)

you are correc that this is out of place but let me clarify myself I was arguing that the description given on a prior page of the "anarchist movement" in itself was a description of utopian communism I am sorry if I am a confusing person my communication skills are not the great thank you

and thank you for the refreshing bit f intelligence when it comes to these matters often opinions are souly based on popular beleif or popular reading once again excuse my trespass and thanks

I'm only posting because I just read through eight pages of the same **** I've read twenty times before. In short, people suck on both sides of the equation and none of this is going to get any better before we lose the victim mentality, this sense of entitlement overlaid with hollywood drama, and everyone takes on some personal ****ing responsibility.