well this sucks. i changed from clipless to clips+straps and now i have mad toe overlap. even when i run my bike ss i still have problems w/it. riding fixed is downright scary.

what do you all do to combat toe overlap...or do you all have perfectly proportioned bodies?

I got used to it.

yeah you learn to not try and put your foot and your wheel in the same place at the same time

Unless you have freakishly small feet, toe overlap is going to happen.

It shouldn't affect you all that much under normal riding conditions. It becomes a non issue once you get used to it.

hmm, i wear a size 12.. it happens on the langster, never on the conversion..

i'm pretty average...size 8.5 feet on a 51 cm frame

yeah i wear 8.5 and ride a 50cm mercier and have atleast an inch of overlap with size M mks clips

toe overlap is bound to happen at some point in time. just keep riding and it'll become instinct to not turn the wheel when your foot is forward.

don't worry too much about it, when you're turning, just got a little slower until you get the hang of it.

it happens with my when using clips and straps (size 12 shoes, mks LL clips), but doesnt happen clipless.

I just got used to it.....

toe overlap is hardly an issue in reality. When you go any sort of speed, your wheel doesn't turn enough during a turn to contact your toes, because turning is mainly accomplished by leaning.

WTF!!!!

cut off your toes

I personally use the SEARCH FUNCTION instead of posting the 20th toe overlap thread, and then I quit whining and get used to it.

One of my conversions has a short top tube, I wear a size 13 shoe, and I use fenders. I have toe overlap of about 3 inches, and it's never been a problem.

Yeah, don't turn when you're going slowly.

This one set of cages/straps I had, I could adjust how far out the cages were from the pedals.. If your cages can do this, just adjust the position back to where there is no overlap, which should be where you would be with clipless.

dood, it's not like your pedaling hard when turning the wheel that much...so what you do is pay attention to when your foot is coming around to hit your tire and then you point your foot really far down so that it doesn't hit your tire...

NO NO NO.

You should not move your foot away from where it belongs to avoid overlap.

Dutret, who the **** said anything about ergonomic positioning of the foot? If his clipless pedals were adjusted properly to start with, and now he has toe overlap, then his foot is now in the wrong position (though this depends somewhat on shoes).

I didn't say anything about compromising ergonomics to avoid overlap.

You suggested asjusting the cages back till his foot didn't hit. That is a bad adjustment to make. They should be adjusted so that his foot is placed correctly over the spindle, overlap should not be considered at all.

Clips stick out much further then clipless shoes which probably accounts for the overlap.

True, but if he didn't used to have toe overlap with clipless, and now he has a lot with clips, then adjusting the clips back until he doesn't will put him in roughly the same position as before. You're right, clips make a little bit of a difference.

i doubt it.
it's not like he's wearing his clipless shoes in his clips. he's wearing sneakers which most likely stick out further than his clipless shoes. so his clip is going to have to be deep enough to let his sneaker slide in far enough so that his foot is still in the proper position in relation to the pedal spindle.

and furthermore, did dutret say anything about ergonomic positioning?
he said you should not move your foot away from where it needs to be so that you can avoid toe overlap.
don't get angry because dutret corrected you.

An ergonomic position is where the foot "belongs", as he put it. I'm just using different terminology to separate his argument from my tip because I feel they are unrelated. Dutret assumed that his foot was where it "belonged" when he was getting overlap with his cages. I assumed that he had neglected to adjust his foot back to where it belonged, thus he got overlap. Now, how much overlap is an issue because of the different shoes and addition of cages (we're all in agreement here), but if he gets "mad overlap", then his foot's probably still too far forward. True, adjusting to where there is none is a bit of a simplification, but it'll probably put him closer than where he is now to where his foot "belongs".

I'm not angry because Dutret corrected me, I'm angry because I was correct in the first place.

Get used to it or get another frame.
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What's wrong with what I said?