Cyclists responsible for minniapolis bridge collaps??
#27
i'm really not sure if it's alright
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The OP was overly dramatic IMO.
She does say something that struck me as odd:
She agreed with the funding of a $534 million project for NYC to achieve these goals but then disagrees with the funding of bicycle paths. (which would help achieve these same goals with a much smaller investment)
:dunno: just a thought
She does say something that struck me as odd:
And if this commuter process, this congestion process gives them the ability to get out of being stuck in traffic, to make the air cleaner, to use less fuel, to create a better environment in their city, I think it's a great idea.
:dunno: just a thought
#30
why would that be a bother to you? Unfortunately for me I didn't read the full article before cut and pasting it... so if their was/is a viable subject i think it appropriate to let as many people know about it as possible, due to it also may effect them as well... the only fault was in my trusting someone else's point of view and out look on the matter before posting it, and I have already apologized for it... not sure what else I can do?
so why does that make me a ****er?
so why does that make me a ****er?
Cross post + misquoting + alarmist **** = 100% pure ****er.
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The OP was overly dramatic IMO.
She does say something that struck me as odd:
She agreed with the funding of a $534 million project for NYC to achieve these goals but then disagrees with the funding of bicycle paths. (which would help achieve these same goals with a much smaller investment)
:dunno: just a thought
She does say something that struck me as odd:
She agreed with the funding of a $534 million project for NYC to achieve these goals but then disagrees with the funding of bicycle paths. (which would help achieve these same goals with a much smaller investment)
:dunno: just a thought
especially this ****e:
GWEN IFILL: Who is spending the money inappropriately?
MARY PETERS: Well, there's about probably some 10 percent to 20 percent of the current spending that is going to projects that really are not transportation, directly transportation-related. Some of that money is being spent on things, as I said earlier, like bike paths or trails. Some is being spent on museums, on restoring lighthouses, as I indicated.
Let's stop having a hissy fit over what the OP did or did not do right--the Secretary of Transportation is an idiot who exceeds the OP in her deficits by far.
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The OP just can't brief an article, that said I'm glad the article was brought to my attention--
especially this ****e:
GWEN IFILL: Who is spending the money inappropriately?
MARY PETERS: Well, there's about probably some 10 percent to 20 percent of the current spending that is going to projects that really are not transportation, directly transportation-related. Some of that money is being spent on things, as I said earlier, like bike paths or trails. Some is being spent on museums, on restoring lighthouses, as I indicated.
Let's stop having a hissy fit over what the OP did or did not do right--the Secretary of Transportation is an idiot who exceeds the OP in her deficits by far. Maybe we should burn her in effigy. . .
The OP just can't brief an article, that said I'm glad the article was brought to my attention--
especially this ****e:
GWEN IFILL: Who is spending the money inappropriately?
MARY PETERS: Well, there's about probably some 10 percent to 20 percent of the current spending that is going to projects that really are not transportation, directly transportation-related. Some of that money is being spent on things, as I said earlier, like bike paths or trails. Some is being spent on museums, on restoring lighthouses, as I indicated.
Let's stop having a hissy fit over what the OP did or did not do right--the Secretary of Transportation is an idiot who exceeds the OP in her deficits by far. Maybe we should burn her in effigy. . .
I don't like that the museums or lighthouse restorations are part of the gas tax budget. I say spend 15% on bike lanes and a national ad campaign to get fat ass lazy Americans out of their cars and on a bike.
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A gas tax increase has been on the table in MN for a long time. The current MN republican party has generally opposed it for a long time and this is just shifting the blame off of themselves.
A prime example of an infrastructure investment in a bike path is the Diagonal Bikeway. It is a separate paved bike only path along side a very busy crosstown in Northeast Minneapolis. It was built as part of an upgrade of a primary area artery. It significantly shortened traffic build up by removing the rather large number of bike commuters from the traffic lane. Win win situation, but politicians spin things how they want and even though it directly improved traffic problems it "wasn't an infrastructer inprovement".
Spinning a wheel is much more fun than a sound bite.
A prime example of an infrastructure investment in a bike path is the Diagonal Bikeway. It is a separate paved bike only path along side a very busy crosstown in Northeast Minneapolis. It was built as part of an upgrade of a primary area artery. It significantly shortened traffic build up by removing the rather large number of bike commuters from the traffic lane. Win win situation, but politicians spin things how they want and even though it directly improved traffic problems it "wasn't an infrastructer inprovement".
Spinning a wheel is much more fun than a sound bite.
#34
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Gas taxes and infrastructure funding is most likley going to determine most, if not all, of the upcoming MN elections.
#35
ok i love bikes. but i'd rather have bike lanes than bike paths. in that regard, i could give a **** less if there one less bike path leading to suburbia and one more wider safer street to ride to wherever you are in the city.
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and yeah, you're a crazy face no where was it even hinted 'bikes are why the bridge collapsed'
hugeeeeee hysterical analysis
edit:
and yeah, you're a crazy face no where was it even hinted 'bikes are why the bridge collapsed'
hugeeeeee hysterical analysis
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Had the engineers determined the bridge needed replacing, it would've been replaced and the money would've come from other projects not as well politically protected. Like adding bicycle lanes. Infrastructure replacement always gets short shrift in favor of NEW highways, NEW bridges, NEW tunnels, all with some politician's name on them, of course.
Politically one-sided? Did I mention any political parties? Do you think the situation would be different had a different administration been in place? Don't be naive.
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I ride a bike path leading to suburbia twice a day. >;(
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bike is mentioned twice and not in the context of the caused it
cyclist is not mentioned
cycling
bicycle and other varients even velociped are not mentioned
this article has nothing to do with bikes other than they mention the fiscal impact of building bike paths/ trails
cyclist is not mentioned
cycling
bicycle and other varients even velociped are not mentioned
this article has nothing to do with bikes other than they mention the fiscal impact of building bike paths/ trails





