shi t yo...im glad i asked...im 5'3" and was debating 56 or 58

good to know

i mean 56 or 59

that looks like a lot of seatpost there ...sure that frames big enough? i just got a black miche off ebay for another bike i'm throwing together...something with a rack that can fit a large zachary's pizza on...(really, this will be its sole purpose in life, pizza hauler)...anyway your the post looks the miche when i held it up to my 56cm....and i'm 6'...

i'm convinced there are many riding frames that are too big for them


nice ride...bumped into a girl a week or so ago that says she came to look @ that 59 you were selling, did you sell it?

I use to have the Mark V in a 59. It always felt a bit small so i finally sold it and bought the 62. Very happy now. Then again size is personal preference too. Personally I like a larger frame.

i know...we had this conversation just busting your chops a bit....

...i really wanted to know if you still had the 59 around, to see what it fit like...considering the option of grabbing a 59 and turn the 56 into the pizza hauler....


then again, it all depends on ebay

It is a fist full of seatpost sticking out! Hardly "a lot". Frame size is perfect for me. And yep, I sold that 59 about a month ago.

If you want to testride my 62 (which is a 58 c-c) you are more than welcome. Bet you a pizza you will want that size too. Here is an interesting way of finding out what size you are. Measure the circumference of your head and subtract one centimeter, sounds silly but works most of the time. like your foot is usually the length of your forearm measured from "ellbow pit" to your wrist.

that actually works(the head measuring), atleast for me it did. how did you learn that anyway?

you left out the one about if you spread your hand out as wide as you can...and the tip of your thumb to the tip of your small finger is supposed to be the same size as your....em'.....you get the idea....

but by the time i hook up with you again, i will probably win at least one of the frames i'm watching on ebay...

Good luck bidding! About that finger spreading - you mean both hands right?

I don't remember where I got that sizing info from, but it worked everytime I tried it. Like buying pants that you are to lazy to try on. button them, grab them at the front (botton) and the rear and then see if you can wrap them around your neck. If they fit comfortable but not loose around your neck they should fit you fine.

46x17 seems like it would be easier just to try them on. anyway i'm debating that frame size vs the 59. i'm 6 foot and wear 32 or 33 inseam jeans. they say standover on the 62 is 34. what do you think/what's your inseam?

I have a Zullo Track bike which i used to race, but dont want to take it out on my regular commute. So I have converted my old Giant ATX 780. This is what I did:

> Built a new wheel: Velocity Track hub with Velocity Aeroheat rims and DT champion spokes (260mm)
> Replaced the LX cranks with some Sugino Super Mighty's to get the right chain line.
> Got a frame-builder nearby to:
- respace the dropouts from 135 to 120;
- reshape the right chainstay to get the clearance for larger chainrings; and
- replace the vert dropouts with horizontal dropouts.
> Cleaned, etched and primed, and the painted with a can.

The attached photos show it with a 51T chainring - and there is good clearance with the stay. I am running an old Galli 44T by 15T until I can find suitably priced other stuff - hopefully at the bicycle recycler.

All in all, I am really happy with the way it turned out. It rides OK and will give a few more years of fun to a bike that was in need of a heap of money to replace old components.

Photos at the following links:

New Back Wheel
Reshaped right chain stay
Horizontal dropouts
51T fits!
All dressed up and ready to go


cheers



Marty

Nice re-build. Chain looks a little slack though? Are the Velocity Hubs the same as IRO/ Formula?

Olly

I usually wear 32 or 33 inseam jeans as well. However, I rarely pull them up as high as I could, if I did that I would probably need them a tad longer. As I said the 62 fits great and I have good clearance when standing over the frame. In terms of sizing an IRO look at the c-c measurement on their frame geometry page. The 62 is 58 c-c. It is labeled a 62 because the seat tube extends past the top tube. The 59 is 55 c-c. So if you usually ride a 57 or a 58 (common for six foot people) get the 62. If you ride a 54 or 55 get the 59. I rode both and much prefer the 62.

Martyr -

Looks great man. You must have a pretty good framebuilder to pull off all that work (and must have a good relationship with him for it not to break the bank!). Some suggestions, if my $.02 is welcome here:

- Skinnier slicks... 26 x 1.0? 26 x 1.2?
- Road bars... or better yet, Nitto track bars.
- Straight-blade ridgid steel fork.
- Front brake only, preferably mid-90's anodized CNC'd canti brake.
- Strip the whole frame, etch/primer, finish in flat black of chainstay.

I think that'd make a road-worthy, stupidly-fun-to-ride creation.

You are correct. The guy is Daryl Perkins. He has been making beautiful frames for years. He did the forks on my Zullo which are of the Straight Aero Max type. The whole job cost $60 (Aus) which I was very happy to depart with for the quality of work.


Again, you are correct. The back brake is going to be a real ***** to keep aligned, so I am going to ditch that. and basically I have thrown together what I have. Next pay day I might treat it with some new bits

cheers for the advice


Marty

chain was slack:-) was proving to myself i could get a 51T on there - not sure why yet given that my daily commute is 21km each way...

Velocity/IRO: Formula? yep - i think so. the lock ring has "Formula" on it so i suppose they all come from the same factory in taiwan. pretty happy with it for the money - got it for $72 (Aus)


cheers


marty

Uh, that's roughly $50USD for a brand new fork?!? That's great! Pictures?

Vomit- Look on the previous page for the picture links. Also, no new fork was built, just horizontals added.

2004 Gunnar Rock Hound with eno rear hub.

I love it and wanted to share

this is the fixed gear I just built, benotto modelo 850

the straight gauge tubing seems to be well-suited for this new duty, and the geometry is fairly upright, so a good conversion

chainline came out straight with the truvativ elita cranks w/ 107mm bb, EAI cog on suzue promax in the back

the front wheel is a nashbar special ritchey pro

Here are my three fixies, fresh from their spring tune-up.

The leader, as some of you may know (there is a thread about the poor fit of the components, not to mention the negligence of the staff) caused a huge pain in my ass. The steer tube on the fork was only sticking up half way through the stem, uncut, with no spacers. Sooooo, instead of buying a new fork, we took a hack saw to the head tube. Took about a cm off the top and bottom, then milled it down. No worries, it rides great and has a more aggressive steer angle. None of the bikes really have components to brag about.

My first fixed, the one in the snow, was built last fall, was a crappy old frame (Camel, ha). It was my beater all winter. The first nice day we had, I took it apart and put most of the parts on a Motobecane frame. Nothing super fancy, but the Motobecane is certainly a better frame than the "Camel." Components are mostly junk, as this was a little test. Now that the "test" is over, I'm slowly replacing the crappier stuff with more quality. Such as the Michelin Pro-lites, which I admit, were mostly an aesthetic choice.

Analoglove, that looks like the cover to Voetsek's Castrator Album in the back wheel of the Leader.

Black Flag