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Old 06-26-08 | 03:14 PM
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I run an Izumi SuperToughness and have had no issues. Im sure you can do as good for cheaper though.
KMC chains are clearly built much cheaper and I dont personally want to trust one. Also, they have a serious amount of side to side that I dont like thinking about.

Why skimp on the chain anyway?
This is true. Your chain is basically what allows you to stop if you plan on riding brakeless. Get a decent chain but I dont think an NJS Track chain is necessary just go for a 1/8
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Old 06-26-08 | 04:13 PM
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KMC 510:

https://www.bikeguide.org/guides/drive/kmc.php

https://www.danscomp.com/464013.php?cat=PARTS
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Old 06-26-08 | 04:35 PM
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I personally ride and trust a 1/8" Z-chain (although the packaging says supercycle up here) and have never broken it. In fact, I've never broken any chain. Once, when I didn't have proper chainline and had a 1/8" chain on a 3/32 6-speed freewheel under singlespeed tension, my masterlink clip thingie got caught in one of the adjacent cogs and it ripped (the clip) off because it was too wide, causing the thing to just come undone. Now I just get ride of that part whenever I buy a new chain.

But on my tarck bike? Skidding from a high cadence, dropping off curbs into a skid, running it too tight, all kinds of abuse, and it's still in one piece. In my experience chains have at the worst fallen off, never broken.
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Old 06-26-08 | 04:51 PM
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People who are skeptical of KMC chains are just paranoid. KMC makes a huge variety of chains for a wide variety of purposes. Some of them are very basic and some very high end. The KMC Z510HX is the best 1/8" SS/FG chain I have ever used, even better than NJS chains I have used. Its very strong and is built better and more wear resistant than the basic Z510 or lower end Z chains.

And its on sale here for an insane price...https://www.niagaracycle.com/product_...oducts_id=2436


The Z610HX is the 3/32" equivalent of the 1/8" Z510HX.

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Old 06-26-08 | 05:05 PM
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Chuck Norris once broke the land speed world record, on a bike with out a front tire or chain.


That means chains aren't needed
hey! welcome to 5 years ago.
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Old 06-26-08 | 05:20 PM
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I had the KMC chain with thicker side plates and it was noisier than a normal chain with normal sideplates. So.. buyer beware.
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Old 06-26-08 | 05:22 PM
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That claim regards geared mtbs.
That claim regards mtbs that have a low gearing. Pretty much all geared mtbs are going to have a low gearing, but that doesn't mean that a SS can't.

36x18 is pretty low. Not as low as the lowest gear on a geared mtb, but still pretty low.
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Old 06-26-08 | 05:54 PM
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Old 06-26-08 | 06:30 PM
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been using this one for two blissful years, guaranteed you won't have any problem with it
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Old 06-26-08 | 08:58 PM
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Actually...

I am one of those. I am not going to be cruising around the city or commuting to work. I am going to be using my FG on Fast Club/Group Rides w/mostly CAT2-3 riders. I am also going to be using Speedplay Clipless. I am 6'5" 215 and I am REALLY Strong (not being cocky; just stating a fact) so I really need something that isn't going to stretch out after the first couple hard rides.

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*This was a response to queerpunk on Page 1. I am clearly not advanced enough to use the "reply with quote" function. What a donkey I am...

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Old 06-26-08 | 09:29 PM
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That claim regards geared mtbs
weight causes stress on the whole drive train,ever see a 500 lb guy ride a mountain bike?
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Old 06-26-08 | 09:56 PM
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Thank God No!

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weight causes stress on the whole drive train,ever see a 500 lb guy ride a mountain bike?

That just straight up scares me. Some Behemoth crashing through the woods Mooing. MOOO MOOOOOOOOOOO MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Yikes!
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Old 06-26-08 | 10:35 PM
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Thread Jacking!

If anyone is still out there with good info; I have another one for you all. I will also say that I just ran 4 searches and didn't really come up with any concrete info.

Any recommendations for a strong/durable Crankset/Chainring Combo? I am thinking about the Sugino RD2 w/the Messenger Ring (175mm. Blk/Blk). However, I am a little put off by the fact that the chainrings only go up to 48t. I would really like a 52t. or at the very least a 50t.

Any Suggestions?

Thank you all,

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Old 06-26-08 | 11:34 PM
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Well if you have $399.99 Ben's Cycles are willing to sell you "The Ultimate Drivetrain"

Sugino GIGAS 51t
IZUMI Model-V Super Toughness
Euro-Asia Super Cog

Sounds good to me.

I haven't heard that many great things about the Sugino RD, you'd probably be better off shelling out the extra cash for a set of 75s or DuraAce or Miche cranks/chainring
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Old 06-27-08 | 04:19 AM
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If anyone is still out there with good info; I have another one for you all. I will also say that I just ran 4 searches and didn't really come up with any concrete info.

Any recommendations for a strong/durable Crankset/Chainring Combo? I am thinking about the Sugino RD2 w/the Messenger Ring (175mm. Blk/Blk). However, I am a little put off by the fact that the chainrings only go up to 48t. I would really like a 52t. or at the very least a 50t.

Any Suggestions?

Thank you all,

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Omniums. Do a search... external bearings, super stiff. Blows square-taper out of the water, being your cited size I wouldn't be surprised that if you stood on square-taper horizontally you could see the arms flex.
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Old 06-27-08 | 09:50 AM
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Thanks idig. I like the Omnium... Wish it came in Black though.

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Old 06-27-08 | 09:53 AM
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Bullet Proof?

Bullet Proof Cranks... I know they are budget cranks but are they worth a poo?

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Old 06-27-08 | 10:27 AM
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Thanks idig. I like the Omnium... Wish it came in Black though.

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The OEM version comes in black, you can find on the Jamis Sonik and the Japanese Specialized Langster S-Works. QBP doesn't carry the black, and SRAM won't sell one either, which stinks because they really word their website like they do.

I've been hunting for a couple of weeks for one, so if you or anyone else sees it, please PM me!

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Bullet Proof Cranks... I know they are budget cranks but are they worth a poo?
Negative.
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Old 06-27-08 | 11:06 AM
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Bullet Proof Cranks... I know they are budget cranks but are they worth a poo?
i put some on my singlespeed bike with a shimano bb and it works great...i scratched the letters off the arms too
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You are worrying too much over nothing.

Parts wear down, some faster than others. But it will happen, and no it's not because of your strength. Keeping your parts well maintained is the best thing you can do to keep them working for a long time. Chain stretch is caused more by grinding than tension. When your chain gets dirty it will start to grind down the hole in the plates that the pins go through, effectively ovalizing them. The chain doesn't actually "stretch," it's just that the holes get larger as they wear.

Snapped chains are almost always caused by improper installation (or not replacing a worn chain). If you bent one of the plates while pushing the pin in it will weaken the chain. In this case being strong will exasperate the problem, but strength is not the source of the problem.

Get some decent quality parts. Make sure they are stiff. This doesn't make them stronger or more durable, but if you are as strong as you say you are then you will notice frame/crank flex more and you'll appreciate the efficiency that stiffer components will give you.
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Old 06-27-08 | 11:14 AM
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That claim regards geared mtbs.

True. Your point?
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Old 06-27-08 | 11:18 AM
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The one my wife has around my neck is pretty damn strong...
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Old 06-27-08 | 12:07 PM
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forget chains get a belt driven bike, but wait what is the strongest belt?
oh no...

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Old 06-27-08 | 05:25 PM
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I accidently bought on of those off the internet. Its stupid thick and stupid heavy for a road bike.

Try a KMC or a Izumi eco and youll be good.
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Old 06-27-08 | 08:37 PM
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I accidentally bought on of those off the internet. Its stupid thick and stupid heavy for a road bike.

Try a KMC or a Izumi eco and youll be good.
Does it wear particularly well or anything? or is it just heavy and gaudy?


I always thought it was made that beefy for the sake of appearance and novelty (and price), but if it's basically indestructible...
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