I do 20+ miles on my fix & yes, it does get uncomfortable at times, but I think for constant long distance riding, a road bike might suit better.

i'm glad we can all agree now

Did the search and....big deal, ya drive a 15yo BMW and a 12yo range rover. And I hope the shoes you are talking about ain't these, 'cause you mention here that you only paid $24 for 'em.




pssss....put your penis away, everybody's laughing at you

I wish Bikerfox would respond to the dumb stuff I post some day.

All we need now is for Kegnasty to make a cameo and we can wrap this thread up.

"Everybody gets 1...tell 'em, peter."

The fact that you tried to dig something up to come back with shows you don't have a life.

BTW, the picture you posted above are my Edward Green Top Drawer Falkirks. I paid $24 for the Alden 901s which is clearly stated in the link you provided, which was a restoration project, and is also now back for sale (same link). Obviously, you need to learn how to read & you need to get out more. Expand you horizons.

so we can't expect any explantion of exactly why conversions made with better tubing and more care are worse than even the crappiest track bike.

or time slips for his "intended purpose" bike.

proven fashion ***** tho...

Having track ends on your conversion wouldn't change anything about the way the bike rides. At all. Why would you recommend this? It makes no sense. Are you really paranoid about your wheel coming out? Tighten your bolts. It's that simple.

I mean, seriously, that's what you think the difference between a road frame and a track frame is?

And that DIY track ends link... the guy didn't even weld it himself. WTF? If you have horizontal dropouts already, there's no reason for that. Unless you don't know how to tighten down a bolt.

Wow.

yeah I'm kind of amazed too. If you're going to put this much effort into trolling you could at least make some wacky argument about pulling the wheel out of horz dropouts or something. Maybe use the word death trap or perhaps suicide to describe conversions.

Had to get in on this before it goes away...OP:I'm glad you like your bike, congrats. I saw your I heart my Windsor post, again good for you. I guess my take is how much you actually want to build a bike versus assembling or converting. I like to recycle and overhaul. I like to clean and polish. I just can't imagine buying a bunch of new parts and sitting on my couch putting them on a frame...boring. I like the troubleshooting involved in conversions, I like to use as many tools as possible to do any job. I love all the bikes I work on...well, until I spot the next one. I am gonna say that you get a lot more for your money in the conversion, better frames/forks and my fave, leftover parts. That windsor is great, it just has no soul and no style. It is, how shall I put this, artless. You know what they say, people start looking like their bikes after a while...JK, hope you continue to be happy with your ride, but hey, get your hands dirty once in a while city boy.

Also, I just looked at my bike and if it had track ends, it would definitely lower the BB (=pedal strike=stupid).

Conclusion: you're an idiot.

Okay, Big Bris. To "prove my saltiness" this is my bike. I am going to be quite frank: it is more tarck than your $300 Windsor will ever be. Let's make that clear.



I spent a ton of money and got (arguably, except for the POS MXRs I had laying around and tires, which are now Gatorskins) the best, most logical components within reason because they will never fail and they get me rolling. and they look good.

Now your earlier comments said people should ride bikes with their intended purposes. A track bike is meant to be ridden on the track, right? But me and hundreds of people live nowhere near one. I still love my bike.

Guess what? Now it has a water bottle mount hose-clamped on, a computer, and pursuit bars. Why? Because I am doing long-mile rides and a 35mi RT commute 4x a week. I just did an exact 60 mile loop out to Valley Forge, PA this morning, cyclocomputer shots if you think I'm "salty."

I don't feel like going into a deep-hearted logical argument with you. I'ts dinner time on a Saturday evening and there are a trillion other things I could be doing. My main point is bikes are MODULAR and can fit different applications according to the owners. 1x1 gearing fixed on a mountain frame with deep deep aerobars? Have a ball. Maybe the owner is.... making a bike work to his or her unique application. Doing long rides with a computer is comforting and you'd be a literal ****** to go without water. Too bad my bike doesn't look exactly how *you* want it, it is MODULAR and through my imagination and mechanical abilities I can make it fit different applications.

People often prefer conversions because the relaxed geometry is more manageable on long rides. My track pro is not designed for half-centuries but I make it work because I have nothing else to do and no money for a different bike. But eventually I will have a SS cross bike and a road bike. Anyway, conversions are an owners' preference and if it makes him or her more comfortable and faster, who cares?

Now if you want to have a logical debate diddle I will be happy to oblige at a later date, but there's no real need for one.

Does that make me want to install track ends on my road frame?

those track ends are kinda ugly. There was one guy I remember seeing that had a trek that he got custom track ends for but they looked great

haha those track ends remind me of:

OK, I'll play along.

Dude, you spent way to much time, energy & effort on your POS looking bike when you should have been working on a respectable sofa.

There.

Dude, you should be much less concerned with what others do and stop applying fuzzy logic to inane situations. And stop being presumptuous. That is a basement game/hobby/storage room (if the metal shelves/totes were not obvious) and there is no need for a "respectable" sofa.

I presently have four fixed gear conversions. None of them would be "better" than a proper track bike except that:

1. If you want to ride fixed on a bike with traditional road geometry, a conversion is probably better because most track frames have track geometry.

2. If you want to ride fixed on the road, you might want more than one water bottle cage. You might even want to install a rack and fenders. Very few track frames have the required eyelets and braze-ons to do that.

3. Building a fixed gear out of an old road bike helps keep old bike frames from being melted down and made into Cadillac Escalades and M16 rifles.

4. My four fixed gear frames have cost me $0, $35, $0 and $75. It's very hard to find track frames on ebay or Craigslist that cheap. For those prices, I can live without track fork ends.

This was a very mature & logical response. Thank you.

All I see in this thread is "Waah, I disapprove of what other people are doing with their bikes and money. Waah."

Cry more.

wow. so i see the n00bs haven't gotten too much dumber...

also:
excuse my laughter.

wait, lemme see if i can guess:

1) my alley cat conversion
2) my rain/bad weather conversion
3) my lock up/grocery conversion
4) my cruising around town conversion

did i get them?

Hardly.

Two are for my 28 mile round trip commute. They're geared differently, depending on the wind conditions.

One is for keeping at work to ride to lunch on. No clipless. No rack. No computer. No fenders. Just easy-to-lock-up bike. That way I don't spend precious lunch time removing all the pilferable items from my bike.

The last one is essentially retired. I used it for about a year, but the frame was always tad small. After some modifications, a neighbor kid will probably be using it for going back and forth to school.

Also, I need to build at least one bike a year so my first grade students have something to paint.

great, now i feel like a jerk. thanks.