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Old 07-29-08 | 12:50 PM
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Reading that BB just reinforces my opinion that 95% of cops are meathead *******s more interested in macho posturing and "heroics" than the enforcement of justice and the maintenance of law and order. Scary ****.
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Old 07-29-08 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ternitoff...
That ^^^ is an interesting insight into the mind of the police. It is indeed really mother****ing scary that any police think this way:

"Watch the video carefully. He hears something, turns around, focuses on the biker, then BA BOOM. Good shyt. Old school take down."

"I'll applaud ANY cop of ANY color who knocks one of these lib bike riding ****heads out of the game the way this cop did... and I'll knock the black and hispanic ones who drive drunk and leave the scene after injuring on duty cops, like in the 52, and those who try to hide their baby daddies bullet ridden cars after he shot a cop."
The responses are kind of disturbing but don't you think this is more a reflection of CMs reputation with law enforcement than just a bunch of crazy cops who like to plow people over for no reason?
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Old 07-29-08 | 12:51 PM
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Reading that BB just reinforces my opinion that 95% of cops are meathead *******s more interested in macho posturing and "heroics" than the enforcement of justice and the maintenance of law and order. Scary ****.
That is so far from the truth.
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Old 07-29-08 | 12:56 PM
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That is so far from the truth.
There is a degree of hyperbole implicit in my statement.

But having been on the receiving end of unfounded police attention before, this is how I feel generally.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:01 PM
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I'm not a supporter of CM at all but if this cop did just randomly pick this guy and barrel into him for no reason, then he's a ****** and should be kicked off the force. But honestly why would a cop just target someone like that with all those people around? I dunno, doesn't sound right. What sounds more logical to me is that the CM rider was doing something that we didn't see on tape and the cop reacted.

Who knows but I think a lot of people are overreacting when they don't know the full story. I've ever read people calling all cops pigs because of this one incident. I know a few cops and some are family members and they're all great people and always uphold the law. To label all cops because of the actions of a select few is pretty sad. I also don't understand the mentality people have that cops are always the bad guys. I saw this a lot when I use to skateboard and it seems like it's pretty popular in the fixed community as well. Almost seems like people do it because it's the cool thing to do which is very weird.
Have you even followed the story till now? The police report, THE POLICE REPORT!! says nothing about any activity done 'off tape'. Find it and read it before coming to the defense of the cop here.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:01 PM
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I hear ya. I've been through that stuff as well. There are ****ty cops, it happens, but I think what a lot of people forget is how hard it is to be a cop. They have so many responsibilities and a lot of times they have to make tough decisions that won't make a lot of people happy. Oh and they also risk their lives ever time they put on a uniform. I can never imagine myself being a cop. I would go nuts from the stress and anxiety.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:03 PM
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I hear ya. I've been through that stuff as well. There are ****ty cops, it happens, but I think what a lot of people forget is how hard it is to be a cop. They have so many responsibilities and a lot of times they have to make tough decisions that won't make a lot of people happy. Oh and they also risk their lives ever time they put on a uniform. I can never imagine myself being a cop. I would go nuts from the stress and anxiety.
That's true, and I for one will always give the cops the benefit of the doubt... and did in this case when only the video was out there for evidence. But since then things have come to light to show conclusively that in this case, this cop simply acted maliciously...and needs to be fired at a minimum.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:04 PM
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Have you even followed the story till now? The police report, THE POLICE REPORT!! says nothing about any activity done 'off tape'. Find it and read it before coming to the defense of the cop here.
I have been following it and I know the cop even made false statements about the incident. I'm not defending this guy at all, I'm just saying that it seems really really weird that he would just hit a random cyclist like that. Obviously an investigation is being done and I'm going to wait until it's completed and all the facts are out before I crucify this guy. That's all.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by gfrance
That's true, and I for one will always give the cops the benefit of the doubt... and did in this case when only the video was out there for evidence. But since then things have come to light to show conclusively that in this case, this cop simply acted maliciously...and needs to be fired at a minimum.
If he did then I agree with you. He should probably even get some psychiatric help as well.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:09 PM
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I have been following it and I know the cop even made false statements about the incident. I'm not defending this guy at all, I'm just saying that it seems really really weird that he would just hit a random cyclist like that. Obviously an investigation is being done and I'm going to wait until it's completed and all the facts are out before I crucify this guy. That's all.

Yeah... maybe cops wouldn't have such a crappy job if they weren't such *******s in the first place. If they can't handle the stress of the job maybe they should do something else... or maybe they just wanted to be bullies in the first place. F* the po-lice.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:10 PM
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tons of police officers CHOOSE to be cops.


In fact, in most decent cities, you have to be a college graduate to become a police officer. At least that's how it is in my county.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:20 PM
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F**k the Police.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iansmash
tons of police officers CHOOSE to be cops.


In fact, in most decent cities, you have to be a college graduate to become a police officer. At least that's how it is in my county.
And in MOST cases MOST cops are decent people and uphold their job to serve the public. But there are plenty of rotten ones amongst them.

I have a cousin who is a New Orleans Police officer. From what I gather, most cops had a choice in life: either continue on the current path and become a low life criminal, or join up as a cop. Most choose the second. But it means in many cases, cops are but one step removed from the criminals they are doing battle with. Kind of scary.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:24 PM
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what happens to a cop in jail?
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:34 PM
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F**k the Police.
Until someone steals your bike (or worse) and you demand justice
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:40 PM
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I have plenty of respect for cops. It must be a very difficult job.

But what the cop did in that video was completely uncalled for. Unless the cyclist had just committed a serious crime, there is no justification for that kind of force. The cyclist could have easily been seriously injured and the cop could have ended up in the hospital as well. Terrible judgment on the cops part, and one thing a cop needs is decent judgment.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:42 PM
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Until someone steals your bike (or worse) and you demand justice
Justice yes, in that case I think I would be entitled to, for many reasons, but what goes on in that video doesn't really earn them my respect, now does it?

And the way he pushed that dude, it was probably good luck that no one else got injured on the sidewalk.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:46 PM
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Justice yes, in that case I think I would be entitled to, for many reasons, but what goes on in that video doesn't really earn them my respect, now does it?
Nor does any of the good ol' boy aggressive ranting about "******* ****head cyclists" on the cop BB, for that matter.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:46 PM
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Justice yes, in that case I think I would be entitled to, for many reasons, but what goes on in that video doesn't really earn them my respect, now does it?

And the way he pushed that dude, it was probably good luck that no one else got injured on the sidewalk.
Agreed 100%.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:51 PM
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what happens to a cop in jail?
Its called "Desk Duty" and they're released early for good behavior. This cop should lose his badge for doing this. It was a premeditated attack on a cyclist to enforce their presence to the riders so they don't act up or stop their CM rides entirely. Fear tactics never work, they just piss people off even more to the point of more protests.
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Old 07-29-08 | 01:58 PM
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i never said the cop was acting responsibly.

I simply stated that I doubt that the officer's act of violence was completely unprovoked. Lets be realistic; how often is it that YOU act out violently at random, in front of hoards of witnesses?
Never. Then again, I never decided to be a cop and I never would. Cause well, it takes a certain type, namely:
https://theerant.yuku.com/topic/7789/...g-cyclist.html

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I hear ya. I've been through that stuff as well. There are ****ty cops, it happens, but I think what a lot of people forget is how hard it is to be a cop. They have so many responsibilities and a lot of times they have to make tough decisions that won't make a lot of people happy. Oh and they also risk their lives ever time they put on a uniform. I can never imagine myself being a cop. I would go nuts from the stress and anxiety.
Again, people chose to be cops. If you chose a profession that you know comes with certain risks, don't go pleading for sympathy after the fact saying "well, it's a stressful job, I put up with a lot of crap so it's ok if I bust out every now and then and assault a guy cause well, I'm stressed out". Sorry, that's just nonsense. You chose it, you deal with it.


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Until someone steals your bike (or worse) and you demand justice
Right, then they do nothing about it for ten years.
https://www.bikingtoronto.com/2008/07...thief-and.html
That store was in operation forever! Everyone that rides a bicycle downtown knows that the place is full of stolen bikes. Why was nothing done sooner?
Oh wait, I know .. because the cops don't give a crap. Because cyclists are a pain in the ass to your average police officer.

I have needed the police a few times in my life. They usually proved far less helpful than I hoped they would be. More often than that though, I have been bullied by police officers.
Bullying is not policing.

I really wish that being a police officer was indeed a noble persuit, the way I thought of it as a child. I wish that cops were paid more, I wish that a university degree in some kind of humanities was a requirement but alas it is not.
I also have cop friends. And like my other friends, they are colourful characters who are not always on the right side of the law or ethics. I have heard some things from my cop friends that would make you shudder.
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Originally Posted by ternitoff...
That ^^^ is an interesting insight into the mind of the police. It is indeed really mother****ing scary that any police think this way:

"Watch the video carefully. He hears something, turns around, focuses on the biker, then BA BOOM. Good shyt. Old school take down."

"I'll applaud ANY cop of ANY color who knocks one of these lib bike riding ****heads out of the game the way this cop did... and I'll knock the black and hispanic ones who drive drunk and leave the scene after injuring on duty cops, like in the 52, and those who try to hide their baby daddies bullet ridden cars after he shot a cop."
Its the NYPD; lowest paid and easiest academy to get into. Half those cops wouldn't be cops anywhere else.

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Old 07-29-08 | 02:08 PM
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regarding the cop message board:

among police officers, there is a very strong incentive to stand up for each other. while cyclists have this alliance to each other, primarily motivated by the similar dangers and obstacles we face while commuting/training, cops have this mentality to a much stronger extent. it is partly a matter of survival, part history, and part community just like us. the point is, when something like this happens, you will see a lot of cops defend the guy, even when it is obvious that it is wrong. this reduces credibility of police in the eyes of the public.

it is indeed unfortunate that the whole "serves em right crowd" and the police crowd unite on so many issues. bikers, drivers, or whoever it is that is offending the cop get pummeled, tased, tackled, etc. because of this desire to stand up for each other. usually it is the case of a bad apple, but instead of casting out the offending party, all cops seem to stand up for the guy no matter the situation. as such, more and more becomes acceptable (see bad apple metaphor). until this mentality breaks, you are not going to see a lot of cops support the victims when a cop does something wrong. sad but true.
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Old 07-29-08 | 02:15 PM
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among police officers, there is a very strong incentive to stand up for each other.
I agree, and since this cop is just 3 weeks out of the academy and a 3rd generation cop for the city he will probably will be kept on desk duty to this blows over unless enough outrage is made. I bet, IF he gets to go back on the streets again, there will be other conduct issues with him. He was raised by a cop and I bet that he was fed to believe the crap that the cop message board has all over it.
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Old 07-29-08 | 02:29 PM
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=Oxb4JhXesiI

It scary to watch how bad are cops this days....I came across with this video on youtube. F@$king crazy...I hope CM wont turn into this.
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