continuing that, here's some other scramblers-

Arrowspokes!

What size frame is that in the photo? I am considering buying one and don't know if I should get a 51 or 53 cm.

Thanks

I bought one as a beater, not assembled yet though. The welds and track ends look very similar to all the other bikes coming out of Taiwanese factories.

I am pleased.

It's a 51cm frame. My road bike is a 52cm, so I had a hard time deciding if I should go with the 51 or 53, but figured it'd be better to go smaller rather than larger. Glad I did, the 51cm fits pretty well.

Does your 52cm road bike have a sloping top tube?

Is the clearance on the back wheel good? How's the fork holding up?

From the pictures, the fork looks like the PerformanceBike Forte Road fork. It has that semi-bladed profile, with the alloy dropouts.

And the stickers in the pictures are "photoshopped" in, if that... probably MSPainted in.

Oh, by the way, I have the Forte fork and it holds up fine. My friend was riding on it, and hit a bump, and it actually bent the rim without affecting the fork.

Man, I used to have a 1980 Scrambler, with most of the parts upgraded to ACS and Redline stuff. Wish I still had it.

Hey- talked to the guys that import this frame and they said the fork is actually a Bontrager without decals- should probably hold up. My buddy has this frame and had it painted white- looks really hot.

I've bought a few of these to build up and resell, I live near wheel&sprocket, and I can pick up the frame set for $100, I learned this when I put in a $100 offer on ebay and they accepted, now they just sell them to me at that price. Fork is a low end Bontrager carbon, not fancy, but no problems and comes uncut with a new frame. frame is just under 5lbs and is pretty sturdy, ive beat on mine quite a bit. the only weird thing about the frame is two sets of water bottle mounts(at least for the type od bike they seem to intend this to be) and the 30mm seat tube diameter. apperently a guy who works at wheel and sprocket spec'ed these frames and had them made in tiawan. all in all a good buy. at least at $100, and it is deffinetly NOT a kilo.

i saw this



on the main page and i knew their would be a thread about them

5.2 pounds for a frame without fork! forget that

I lost control of my bowels when I read that.

Howdy- for our 2cents it is a Chromoly not- aluminum frame so it is obviously heavier. The Pake chromoly track frame is similar and weights 4.87lbs for a higher price. The scrambler frame rides very comfortable and we want the price to be right for someone getting into fixed bikes.

I purchased and built one of these framesets as my first build and have had no issues. I had my LBS give it a once-over when I was done building it and they stated that for what I paid and for what I am using it for is just fine.

When I had questions, the folks @ Wheel & Sprocket/Eighth Inch were very helpful.

5.2 pounds at 139$ shipped is quite a deal, for a new frame

but what i was getting at is: used aluminum or steel road frames that are in the sub 4.5 pound range can be had for 75$ or less if your in the know.


if i was building a utility bike with internal geared hub(or other such build were weight is less of an issue) i would seriously consider this if used was not an option

those don't seem to be very popular here.

doesn't the 139 price include a carbon fork?

Thanks for the plug- I completely agree- although completely built there probably won't be a noticeable difference with .7lbs.



$139 includes frame & chromoly fork- we had carbon forks initially while our chromoly forks were in production. We have a couple that are mounted on frames left over if you want one- same price 1-866-995-9918
Here is the picture with chromoly fork:

It's kind of lame that I paid $35 shipping and didn't get to use the 10% off coupon, two months ago. Ugh.

I agree, but I guess it's like buying a new PS3 then have the price drop or some sale come along.
Maybe they could offer a coupon to the previous buyers of their framesets. Hint Hint LOL

You found my hidden agenda.

Shameless shameless coupon begging! Hey- I tell you what- drop me a line and we will look up your previous order and I will credit the 10% off towards your next purchase- but do me a favor and let people here know how you like the frames- as you can probably tell from all our advertising we are excited to get this product out there! By-the-way we are expecting a review of the frame in an upcoming "Cog" magazine article!

Like I said, it is the same quality as most other bikes with a name brand, coming from a Taiwanese factory.

There are a few design flaws, though. The water bottle holes are too close together, two bottles won't fit without flipping a bottle around when inserted. The other issue I have is the low bottom bracket. If you can just send the blueprints to the factory, why not make a higher bottom bracket? It feels like I can't go bigger than 165mm cranks. Lastly, the rear brake bridge isn't designed for a short reach caliper. That's really odd because the fork that came with the bike does require a short reach caliper.

The only cosmetic issue I have are the brake bosses on the top tube. I know it makes the bike more functional, but zip-tying a brake cable housing to the tube to use a rear brake is functional also. Doing without the bosses will make the bike look immensely cleaner without a rear brake.

I actually bought two frames because the geometry fit me so well, short, slightly sloping top tube and steep seat and head tubes. So, you can see why paying an extra $70 and missing the 10% coupons kind of sucks.

I'll post pictures, eventually, of how I have mine set up.