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2009 GT Gutterball

Old 09-29-08, 09:55 AM
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2009 GT Gutterball

Will the Pulse and GTB's drop in price?



https://www.gtbicycles.com/usa/eng/Pr...oad/Race/#5767
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Old 09-29-08, 10:05 AM
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That frame looks nice.
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Old 09-29-08, 11:18 AM
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no the gt and pulse wont go down in price because they are discont'd.....
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Old 09-29-08, 11:23 AM
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too bad about the sloping toptube...would be nice if it sloped the other way!
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Garbageball.
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Old 09-29-08, 11:57 AM
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ugly as f*ck.
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Old 09-29-08, 01:22 PM
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does a disservice to the history of the gtb. slopes the wrong way and is generally janky.
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Old 09-29-08, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by imthewalrus View Post
does a disservice to the history of the gtb. slopes the wrong way and is generally janky.
You say that like the GTB is some sort of magical track bike in the first place.
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Old 09-29-08, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by octopus magic View Post
You say that like the GTB is some sort of magical track bike in the first place.
GTB isn't magical, but the Pulse is. I still like GT's Generic Track Bike though.
But that bike ^^^ is UGLY.
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Old 09-29-08, 02:50 PM
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the pulse was nothing short of an abuser. I had the pulse and really didn't think I felt any "special" feel with it (although it was very fast). how many can really tell the difference in tubing while riding really? All I remember was being tired all the time after getting off mine because of all the road shock. it was an abuser and I'm sure the gtb was just as abusive
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Old 09-29-08, 03:34 PM
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i had a pulse, or a gtb...the nicer one. i bought it even though it was way too small, sold the frameset on ebay which paid for more than the whole bike. now i have a dura ace grouppo that i was kind of paid $50 to take lol.

i don't like this bike, but dont think the old gt frames will go down, they're actually going up. one frame just sold for close to $800 the other day on ebay, which is insane.
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Old 09-29-08, 03:59 PM
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I want one of these so bad


well not THESE

but the pulse or w/e...my LBS owner has one and it's awesome looking
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Old 09-29-08, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dddave View Post
ugly as f*ck.
if you remove the rear brake and those weird checkerboard thingys, it might be better, though, as people have said -- the sloping top tube isn't so hot.
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Old 09-29-08, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dougland89 View Post
more stuff i found on it:
https://hagoromo.blogspot.com/2008/06/gt-gutterball.html
https://www.singletrackworld.com/article.php?sid=2918
https://kozy.com/itemdetails.cfm?id=9250

one of the links shows how thick the dropouts are, it's aluminum. i'm over it.
Actually I think the dropouts are aluminum with a steel insert which is part of the tensioner. My big concern would be having axles long enough.
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Old 09-29-08, 06:09 PM
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I plan to retire on the money earned from the sale of my GTB.
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Old 10-01-08, 11:32 AM
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yeah, i suspect GTBs/pulses will begin to follow the trends of the cannondale frames: each time cannondale releases a new 'track bike,' the original early/mind 1990's frames increase in value (err selling price).

i agree the sloping TT isn't pretty, but the geometry doesn't look far off from the GTB; it just wasn't that steep. Somewhere there's a german site full of GT brochures, and one contains GTB geometry. After riding one for so long, i was a bit surprised at the angles (STA 73 HTA 74 i believe). BB is nice and high, though.
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Old 10-01-08, 02:40 PM
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Hrm...my GTB slopes ever so slightly towards the headtube, while the Gutterball slopes away from the headtube. Doesn't yours?

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Old 10-01-08, 02:43 PM
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It is even more obvious on the smaller frames:

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I want your bike jet sanchez. Dibs if you sell.
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Yes the first one with bullhorns, alter stem, and gold v's is his bike.
I've seen it countless times and I've been in love from day one.
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Hrm...my GTB slopes ever so slightly towards the headtube, while the Gutterball slopes away from the headtube. Doesn't yours?
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mine did too
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true, true....

but the other angles, i think, are very similar. I'm not saying it's the same frame by any means, but everyone cites the 75 deg. HTA on the old c'dale frames vs. the major taylor/capo. here, the handling should be close to the same.

and i am usually a fan of straight-blade forks, but the triple-triangle is aggresive-looking enough with more jarring, straight edges.
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what's up with companies like GT and cannondale who used to make some of the most beautiful frames around making current versions of them that suck balls? why dont they just remake the old ones?
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It is funny, isn't it? The bikes they *are* making probably suit most riders looking for that sort of bike (nomex on!). That is to say: road/relaxedesque geometry, mounts for brakes, bottle cage mounts, sub 1000$ price tag. Now, what everyone says they *want* is different: aggressive as heck angles, top-tier parts, low weight. The geometry is by and large a subjective thing, but you cant blame manufacturers for producing bikes they can sell in volumes instead of (truly) niche-market items.

I know i'll take heat for this, but I just don't see a huge market for a 1500$ GTB or c-dale track bike. People will *want* it, but purchasing is another thing.

Would it hurt/cost more to clean up the nasty compact-frame looking top tube on the gutterball or langster? Would tipping the head angle a degree steeper on a capo really make it 'dangerous' for average riders? I don't think so.
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