Toe strike on Steamroller
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Toe strike on Steamroller
I've just put toe clips and fenders on my Steamroller and am getting some pretty nasty toe strike. In fact, I think it would happen even without the fenders.
Is this happening to anybody else? My cranks are 170mm. Do I have to go down to 165's? I rather not cause I'm long legged. I could go clipless but I prefer clips for urban riding. I want to keep the fenders to keep the salt spray off during the winter.
Is this happening to anybody else? My cranks are 170mm. Do I have to go down to 165's? I rather not cause I'm long legged. I could go clipless but I prefer clips for urban riding. I want to keep the fenders to keep the salt spray off during the winter.
Last edited by andmalc; 12-01-08 at 02:14 PM.
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You're talking about toe overlap, and no going from 170mm to 165mm won't fix the problem since that would be changing the crank length 5mm. First to access the problem: I don't see one. The only time this may affect you is when you're going < 2 mph. When you're going fast there is absolutely no way your wheel will hit your pedal.
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You're talking about toe overlap, and no going from 170mm to 165mm won't fix the problem since that would be changing the crank length 5mm. First to access the problem: I don't see one. The only time this may affect you is when you're going < 2 mph. When you're going fast there is absolutely no way your wheel will hit your pedal.
Anyway, toe overlap is just a problem you have to learn to live with.
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You're talking about toe overlap, and no going from 170mm to 165mm won't fix the problem since that would be changing the crank length 5mm. First to access the problem: I don't see one. The only time this may affect you is when you're going < 2 mph. When you're going fast there is absolutely no way your wheel will hit your pedal.
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Yeah, it happens when maneuvering in traffic, so it wouldn't make me crash but it would prevent me from turning sharply when I need to.
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I've got a Steamroller with LARGE toeclips, 165 crank arms, and 700 x 32 tires. If I try really, really, really hard, I can get the front of my clips to touch the tire. Howver, I've never had any toe strike issues while out riding at normal speeds since I'm more liekly to be leaning around corners and objects.
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My frame size is a 56. My cycling inseam is about 58 (34.5") so I'm pretty long in the leg and take a 172.5 on a road bike crank. But if I can borrow some 165's I'll give 'em a try.
In any case, turns out a shorter crank would help but I've got a long way to go. The overlap is 2 cm. Of that, the fender takes up about .5 cm. I'll look into a smaller toe clip.
I was out tonight trying tilting the inside pedal in turns - maybe I'll figure out a way to turn that into some kind of fixed gear stunt.
In any case, turns out a shorter crank would help but I've got a long way to go. The overlap is 2 cm. Of that, the fender takes up about .5 cm. I'll look into a smaller toe clip.
I was out tonight trying tilting the inside pedal in turns - maybe I'll figure out a way to turn that into some kind of fixed gear stunt.
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I've got a Steamroller with LARGE toeclips, 165 crank arms, and 700 x 32 tires. If I try really, really, really hard, I can get the front of my clips to touch the tire. Howver, I've never had any toe strike issues while out riding at normal speeds since I'm more liekly to be leaning around corners and objects.
Since you mention tire size, I was just about to order studded Schwalbe Marathon Winter tires which are 35 mm wide. Now I'm hesitating because I figure the knobs on these will make them higher = yet more overlap. This is a drag.
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Toe overlap shouldn't be a problem.
I ride a 52 track frame with really tight geometry with substantial toe overlap, and LL MKS clips Riding through traffic, I've never had any trouble with toe overlap.
Try tilting your feet down. I think toe overlap is one of those problems that go away when you get used to riding a fixed gear, kind of like getting used to not coasting.
I ride a 52 track frame with really tight geometry with substantial toe overlap, and LL MKS clips Riding through traffic, I've never had any trouble with toe overlap.
Try tilting your feet down. I think toe overlap is one of those problems that go away when you get used to riding a fixed gear, kind of like getting used to not coasting.
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I think a lot of people never try this... why else would they be posting?
Also good for toe overlap problems, since they only happen with fixed gears, is learning to hop your back tire into the air a tad while repositioning your feet when you see a tight turn coming up and think you might hit the wheel.
Also good for toe overlap problems, since they only happen with fixed gears, is learning to hop your back tire into the air a tad while repositioning your feet when you see a tight turn coming up and think you might hit the wheel.
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Toe overlap shouldn't be a problem.
I ride a 52 track frame with really tight geometry with substantial toe overlap, and LL MKS clips Riding through traffic, I've never had any trouble with toe overlap.
Try tilting your feet down. I think toe overlap is one of those problems that go away when you get used to riding a fixed gear, kind of like getting used to not coasting.
I ride a 52 track frame with really tight geometry with substantial toe overlap, and LL MKS clips Riding through traffic, I've never had any trouble with toe overlap.
Try tilting your feet down. I think toe overlap is one of those problems that go away when you get used to riding a fixed gear, kind of like getting used to not coasting.
i have so much overlap on one of my bikes i think i may have to go clipless-- mks sylvan pedals currently hit the front tire.




That's what you get when you buy a frame with compact geo and put fenders on it to boot



