Smaller Frames without Toe Overlap
03-06-09 | 11:24 PM
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Okay, I'm gonna clear some things up because I wasn't thorough enough earlier.
I have toe overlap on my current bike, which is fine when I'm riding. I am completely accustomed to it, even at slow speeds. I didn't post this thread to hear about how "New Folk" always complain about toe overlap, or about how by some strange rule you are less mature or experienced for wanting to eliminate a possible hinderance. I honestly just wanted to get some input from some more knowledgeable riders about smaller track frames with a longer front to center measurement (assuming thats the correct terminology). So, if you intend on leaving an atleast somewhat helpful reply, please do. Otherwise, all I can do is ask you to refrain from posting if you're only out to stir up irrelevant conversation.
That being said, I hope this thread can get back on track.
I have toe overlap on my current bike, which is fine when I'm riding. I am completely accustomed to it, even at slow speeds. I didn't post this thread to hear about how "New Folk" always complain about toe overlap, or about how by some strange rule you are less mature or experienced for wanting to eliminate a possible hinderance. I honestly just wanted to get some input from some more knowledgeable riders about smaller track frames with a longer front to center measurement (assuming thats the correct terminology). So, if you intend on leaving an atleast somewhat helpful reply, please do. Otherwise, all I can do is ask you to refrain from posting if you're only out to stir up irrelevant conversation.
That being said, I hope this thread can get back on track.
08-27-09 | 12:32 AM
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The Redline 925 48cm frame doesn't have any toe overlap. Its geometry is NOT that of a tight track frame. There are others. I bet the IRO Phoenix doesn't have any toe overlap either.
Last edited by Curious LeTour; 08-27-09 at 12:45 AM.
08-27-09 | 12:45 AM
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The 925 does not vaguely resemble a "tight track frame." It's a relaxed road frame with fork-ends. Basically a conversion.
As for the IRO Phoenix, any bike with the geometry of a Schwinn Varsity won't have toe over-lap, it also won't provide a very snappy ride. That might be what the OP is looking for, though if that's the case I doubt he would be asking here.
Finally, why resurrect a thread that's been dead for nearly six months?
As for the IRO Phoenix, any bike with the geometry of a Schwinn Varsity won't have toe over-lap, it also won't provide a very snappy ride. That might be what the OP is looking for, though if that's the case I doubt he would be asking here.
Finally, why resurrect a thread that's been dead for nearly six months?
08-27-09 | 09:27 AM
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Some toe overlap is acceptable, since it is only an issue at low speed. The worse the overlap, the higher the speed it becomes a problem. And the smaller the frame, the more likely you are to have overlap -- assuming the frame is designed for standard 700C wheels. Smaller frames can be built with reasonable geometry and no to minimal overlap if smaller wheels are used, but this isn't common with production frames.
08-27-09 | 07:10 PM
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All of that is fine with me. A road frame with fork-ends is more than satisfactory for me.
08-27-09 | 07:45 PM
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09-01-09 | 07:50 AM
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what are some other good options/recommendations for toe clips? i have seen ones that have like 3 straps going over the top and some that look like one big piece of fabric.
09-01-09 | 08:12 AM
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Or you can learn to trackstand properly. You should have your wheel pointed in the direction of your fwd foot.
