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Old 04-11-09 | 12:00 AM
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I searched around, didn't spot much about my question.....

I had surgery about five months ago, and it screwed with my metabolism enough so that I put on a bunch of weight. I'm 6'3" and about 260, and now I'm healthy enough again to start thinking about getting on a bike to shed some of this girth.

Here's my ideal bike:

I would like a single speed that is built like a tank, and I don't give a crap if it weighs 50 pounds, as long as it is strong enough not to go having any problems like broken spokes or bent rims, etc. I'll be going on rides of about 20 miles or so, so it should be able to get to a good clip and stay there. I'm looking to get something new, say under 800 bucks if that's possible.

Anyone know of any good stock bikes that fit this description? I would love to hear what you have to say. There look to be some pretty cool stock single speeds out there, but let her rip if you have any sage words of advice!!! Thanks a lot!!!

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Old 04-11-09 | 12:48 AM
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i suggest 700c 36 hole deep v's laced 3 cross with double or triple butted spokes to high flange hubs, a steel frame and fork, brakes until you get stronger and lose weight, a strong headset and at the very least 25c tires until you drop about 50 lbs.

i can't recommend a stock bike but there are plenty of them out there that should be fine. Leaders, BMWs and Bianchi Pistas seem to be popular with alot of fatties.
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Old 04-11-09 | 01:21 AM
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I was in the same situation. Im 6 ft tall and 275. So that would make me more of a fatso than you. I purchased a Schwinn Madison. I currently have about 120 miles on it and it is riding great. I also ride these crappy chicago streets so it gets abuse. It is really durable. The cranks are fsa and built tough. The wheels are double flange alex r500 with formula hubs. The gear ratio is perfect. And you could pick one up at a decent price with a little shopping around.
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Old 04-11-09 | 01:25 AM
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Wheels are probably going to be the most important part in your build so some of those 36 holes as previously suggested would do great and if you want even more bomb proof you can go with 48 hole rims and hubs. You will also want to be as comfortable as possible so go with a steel frame and don't cheap out on the saddle. Last thing, and probably most beneficial, would be to ask this question on the Clydesdale forum because many other people are in your predicament so don't feel abnormal haha. Good luck!

PS my uncle weighs about 235 and he just bought a Fuji track; he loves it so far
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Old 04-11-09 | 02:34 AM
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At 260 you're not at a weight where you're going to be smashing frames, although you'll probably experience a bit more frame and crank flexing than most other people. Most important thing is going to be getting a set of really tough wheels and preferably from a shop near you that builds them by hand.

Something like an Alex DA28 in 32 spoke would be really durable for your uses
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Old 04-11-09 | 03:49 AM
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>now I'm healthy enough again to start thinking about getting on a bike to shed some of this girth<

The good news is you want to lose weight. The bad news is exercise won't help. It'll simply make you more hungry. Exercise will make you fit, of course, a worthy goal for which to strive. But exercise won't make you lose weight.

To lose weight, you have to cut back on the amount of stored energy - food - you're eating compared to the energy you are expending, whether or not you exercise.
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Old 04-11-09 | 04:44 AM
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quote----But exercise won't make you lose weight.----unquote

hmmmm. if i ate 2500 calories a day and burned 2500 calories i would keep the same weight. then if i added a two hour bike ride every day, i'll bet i'd lose weight. something like 3500 burned calories will shed a pound. so if i take in 2500 calories a day and burn 3000 calories a day, then i'll lose a pound a week. right? so exercise burns calories, so exercise will help.
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Old 04-11-09 | 04:54 AM
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Any bike will work; talk with the LBS about a wheel "upgrade" to a more heavy-duty wheelset as others have mentioned. If you have a bike built by somebody like IRO, you can specify the wheelset at the outset.

Mavic Open Sport, Velocity Dyad or Fusion with 36 spokes in 3-cross configuration are some other suitable choices. Formula or Surly hubs if you've got a budget, Phil Wood if not. DT or Sapim spokes.

And exercise will most definitely help. Eating right definitely helps. Simply putting yourself on a starvation diet is lunacy.
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Old 04-11-09 | 05:04 AM
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Probably the most important thing is get whatever wheels you are going to use properly tensioned. Get a reliable wheel builder to work over the wheels and they'll last.
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Old 04-11-09 | 06:30 AM
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i'm 5'10" and i was 240 before i started riding everyday. i'm currently at 225, and i do look fitter. I do eat more, but I still lost weight overall.

I'm riding an IRO Mark V with Deep Vs. I have to recommend velocity deep v for any heavy riders. They simply are bomb proof. Amazing rims.
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Old 04-11-09 | 07:04 AM
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I'd recommend deep v rims, not necessarily Velocity ones, but Weinmann DP-18s if you can't afford the Velocity one (similar, just cheaper) Do not think that thicker is always stronger, H+Sons I've heard may explode on you.
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Old 04-11-09 | 07:33 AM
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I'm 6'6" and 250 pounds, I've got 3 bikes that I beat up like they owe me money, and not a one of them has 36h wheels.

The key isn't always more spokes, it's properly built wheels. Most of my wheels are handbuilt (by me) 32h mid-section rims (DT RR1.1, Wolber Alpine T170, Alex DA16, Mavic Open Pro) laced 3 cross with DT Champion 2.0 straight gauge spokes.
Properly tensioned and stressed during the build process, a 32h wheel should hold true and round for you for thousands of miles.
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Old 04-11-09 | 07:43 AM
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Some of this information is right-on. Brakes, a basic steel frame, a good headset, and well-built wheels. 36h, laced 3 cross, but more importantly, with double-eyeletted rims, which add strength more than just additional rim material will. I recommend cyclocross rims like the Salsa Delgado, which are a little bit wider and beefier than your average road rim, designed to take a bit more abuse. Other than that you're not really outside the realm of what bikes and standard gear can handle, so as long as you build smartly you'll wind up with a bike that serves you very well.
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Old 04-11-09 | 08:56 AM
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I'm 6'2" and currently 255.My wheelsets are 1.handbuilt velocity V's to formulas with double butted in the back and straight gauge in the front 2.handbuilt open sport to formula with double butted 3.factory weinmann V's to formula with straight gauge(trued and tensioned at shop)and a cheapo 27" weinmann box rim to suzue jr set.All sets are 3X,except the velocity front(2X).The only set that needs occasional trueing is the 27" one,all the others are perfectly fine.I ride my bikes almost exclusively in the city with potholes and everything else that comes along with it and have yet to break a spoke(i might have jinxed myself now).
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quote----But exercise won't make you lose weight.----unquote

hmmmm. if i ate 2500 calories a day and burned 2500 calories i would keep the same weight. then if i added a two hour bike ride every day, i'll bet i'd lose weight. something like 3500 burned calories will shed a pound. so if i take in 2500 calories a day and burn 3000 calories a day, then i'll lose a pound a week. right? so exercise burns calories, so exercise will help.
I think he meant exercise without dietary regulation- I weighed 210 over the summer, ate alright and rode every day. Come winter, I put on 10 pounds because even though I rode as much, I ate more. I've been using the website www.everydayhealth.com to keep track of my daily intake, and I think I'm at 208 or so now, not sure though.
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quote----But exercise won't make you lose weight.----unquote

hmmmm. if i ate 2500 calories a day and burned 2500 calories i would keep the same weight. then if i added a two hour bike ride every day, i'll bet i'd lose weight. something like 3500 burned calories will shed a pound. so if i take in 2500 calories a day and burn 3000 calories a day, then i'll lose a pound a week. right? so exercise burns calories, so exercise will help.
This is correct, and an excellent way to shed pounds.

Additionally, the bike rides will increase your metabolism. Now, you'll be able to burn even more calories sitting down at a desk than you were before cause your resting metabolic rate will be much higher!
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Old 04-11-09 | 12:43 PM
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I weighed 265 when I started riding again.

I can't say my Pista really held up to my weight.

I'd recommend a Surly Complete, just the way Surly makes it, but with a Specialized Armadillo tire or a Continental Gatorskin tire on the back wheel.

You can do that for under $800 easy.
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Originally Posted by scottportland

I would like a single speed that is built like a tank, and I don't give a crap if it weighs 50 pounds, as long as it is strong enough not to go having any problems like broken spokes or bent rims, etc. I'll be going on rides of about 20 miles or so, so it should be able to get to a good clip and stay there. I'm looking to get something new, say under 800 bucks if that's possible.

Anyone know of any good stock bikes that fit this description? I would love to hear what you have to say. There look to be some pretty cool stock single speeds out there, but let her rip if you have any sage words of advice!!! Thanks a lot!!!

Scott
Marin Hamilton 29er is pretty much exactly what you are looking for.



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• Under $500.
• Built sturdy like a mountain bike but lower rolling resistance like a roadie.
• Flip-flop hub so you can give Fixed a try.
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Old 04-12-09 | 12:28 AM
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> if i ate 2500 calories a day and burned 2500 calories i would keep the same weight. then if i added a two hour bike ride every day, i'll bet i'd lose weight.<

Not necessarily and probably not. You've already gained weight without exercise. Your body will simply crave more food and if you are like most humans, you'll eat more food to assuage the hunger. That's why it's so difficult for people to lose weight once it's gained.

You will have to make a conscious effort to keep the intake lower than the output, and that's going to involve motivation - and record keeping - beyond just riding your bike. You can do it, of course, if you're motivated.
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Old 04-12-09 | 12:44 AM
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>Additionally, the bike rides will increase your metabolism. Now, you'll be able to burn even more calories sitting down at a desk than you were before cause your resting metabolic rate will be much higher!<

Even if riding a bike could speed up metabolism, the result would simply cause a sensation of hunger sooner rather than later. For most people, that means eating more food to stop the hunger pangs, which means not losing weight.

So riding a bike - or performing any exercise - won't help with weight loss. It will make anyone fitter, but not necessarily thinner.

To lose weight, via exercise or simply sitting at a desk, it's necessary to expend more energy than is taken in. One good way is to eat as much healthy food as possible - fruits, vegetables, and protein - while cutting back on processed foods, from cookies and ice cream (no!) to breaded fish sticks, from French fries and lasagna to tortillas.

Healthy foods will fill the stomach, with far less calories than are contained with processed foods. Unhealthy foods will put someone at greater risk from heart disease.
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dude, icyclist, you're really dumb. calories are the measure of energy. if i expend more calories than i take in, i will lose weight (body fat), period. if i eat more because i'm hungrier, then i'll be taking in more calories than i'm burning, and i won't lose weight. um, no shiit. why are you telling me this? it's so obvious.

saying that exercise won't help someone lose weight is the most inane thing i've ever heard. of course it will help. if you pig out and defeat the purpose of exercise, of course it will backfire. duh. so, if i go to the barber and get my hair cut, are you saying that won't help make my hair shorter? if the barber takes someone else's longer hair and superglues it to my head, yeah, ok, then my hair would be longer, so you have to make sure the barber doesn't glue someone else's hair to your head when he's done cutting it. i'll keep my eyes out.

if i eat 2000 calories of mcdonalds and expend 3000 calories a day, i will lose weight. if i eat 2000 calories in vegetables and expend 3000 calories a day, i will lose weight. do you think 2 plus 2 is 3? what the hell are you talking about?

thanks for all your trenchant insights.....
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Old 04-12-09 | 03:06 AM
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the most important thing that you can do, is get your wheels hand-built by a good builder. Hand-built Deep Vs triple crossed will be bomb proof.
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Old 04-12-09 | 07:52 AM
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While others recommend Deep V's I will agree with queerpunk and say you should get some Salsa Delgado Cross rims built up. Since you don't care about weight I'd say you max out and get a 36 hole (but 32 holes would be fine as well) pair of rims laced to Formula hubs. What makes the Salsa better than a Deep V is it allows you options of fitting big or skinny tires. I have the Salsa and can fit 50mm tires on the rim

For a frame I'd recommend a Surly Crosscheck because of the range of options you have with it: racks, fenders, skinny tires, big tires, single speed or gears. Plus it can be used as a winter bike as well (skinny tires for summer, bigger tires for the winter) It'll spend half your budget, but a frame is the most important thing you buy and this frame is definitely worth it due to its versatility. You can get one at universalcycles.com and use code VIP15 to get a 15% discount off the frame. They also ship it to you for free!

The way I'm recommending you do it is not a stock thing since you'll be building the bike so you'll be going over your budget a little. You can do a lot of scavenging on ebay and craiglist though for parts

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